Schindler's List (Widescreen Edition) Reviews

• A cinematic masterpiece!

  
  By A3IB1W0SVED0Z3 on 2001-02-22
  Meet Oskar Schindler. A German living in occupied Poland during World War II. A member in good standing of the Nazi party. A womanizer, a war profiteer...and ultimately a man of conscience. A man who became one of the great unsung heroes and humanitarians of the war.

  "Schindler's List" chronicles Oskar Schindler's spiritual odyssey from war profiteer to humanitarian and hero. Winner of seven Academy Awards® in 1993, including Best Picture, this harrowing and heart-rending film is Steven Spielberg's masterpiece, and perhaps one of the finest and most important movies ever made. It depicts Schindler's ultimately successful attempt to rescue 1,100 Jews from Hitler's "Final Solution" by getting them to safety outside Poland.

  Dynamic performances abound in this beautiful movie, Especially noteworthy are Liam Neeson as the suave Schindler, Ralph Fiennes as the monstrously depraved Nazi colonel, Amon Goeth, and Ben Kingsley as the dignified, principled Jewish prisoner Itzhak Stern.

  "Schindler's List" is definitely not light entertainment! This beautiful movie allows viewers to feel like they're actually a part of one of the darkest, most horrific periods in history. (I'm sure this is the reason the film was shot in black-and-white, with only minor "colorized" bits included.) The story of the Holocaust needs to be told over and over again, in hopes that future generations can understand the horrors perpetrated on an entire race of people and prevent future occurrences. "Schindler's List" is perhaps one of the best and most effective vehicles for telling that story I've ever experienced.
  
  

• A phenomenal movie that everyone should see

  
  By A2M1B750OV0PXR on 2000-05-26
  Schindler's List is my favorite historical drama of all-time for a number of reasons. Not only is it a masterpiece from a cinematic point of view, but it is priceless for the story it tells to the world.

  First of all, the acting is superb. Liam Neeson does well as Oskar Schindler, but in particular I liked Ben Kingsley (as Istak Stern, Schindler's accountant) and Ralph Fiennes (as Amon Goeth, the camp commandant). All of the performances were very convincing and reflect the good casting.

  Another great feature of this film is the soundtrack. Slow, soaring music tells of the painful circumstances of the Jews and of their conflict with the Nazi regime. Mixed in with the instrumental pieces are Jewish melodies which also gave me a sense of the cultural traditions of the Jewish people.

  From a technical point of view, the decision by director Spielberg to shoot the movie is black-and-white was a good one. In fact, I think it makes the movie better than it would have been in color. The few color segments throughout the movie are aptly placed and help to focus the viewer's attention on particular details through the eyes of Schindler. The scenery and photography were excellent compared to other movies I have seen and contribute to the whole atmosphere of the 1940s. Some people may be put off a bit by the length (over 3 hours) but believe me, every minute is worthwhile. Unlike other long movies, there are no lulls or useless scenes -- everything counts.

  The best part of the movie without any doubt is the story itself, the tale of Oskar Schindler and how he was able to save 1100 Jews from the Auschwitz gas chambers by employing them in his enamelware factory and eventually his shelling factory. Schindler's ambition and personal success shines through amidst the Jewish tragedy and shows how one man, if he has the willpower, can accomplish what appears to be impossible. Based on the novel by Thomas Keneally (which I have not yet had the opportunity to read), this movie digs deep into the human soul and shows how different people are able to survive.

  There are many touching moments in this film; in particular, near the end when the war has been declared over and the Nazis must flee from the Soviet army. This part and the modern-day segment that follows are both truly heart-warming tributes. I finished watching this movie for about the fourth time yesterday, and even though I didn't cry, tears welled up in my eyes (and this rarely happens when I watch movies).

  This movie is a must-see not only for its excellence in the film genre but for the story it presents to the viewer. Although it is not suitable for young children (due to its violence and mature content), any mature individual should see it so they can understand that a spark of good can still exist in a fire of evil. This movie deserved all of the Academy Awards that it received and will likely remain in top ten lists for at least the next fifty years. Highly recommended.
  
  

• The List Is A Life

  
  By A2D8CUJPOSRPNA on 2002-06-06
  Any way you stack it, Steven Spielberg's 1993 masterpiece SCHINDLER'S LIST is one of the most important and enlightening films ever made. It is a heartfelt, deeply personal film about one of the ghastliest events in human history--the Holocaust--and how one man, a Nazi profiteer by the name of Oskar Schindler, while motivated by money, managed to save some 1200 Jews from the gas chambers of Auschwitz during World War II.

  Spielberg wisely does not gloss over the fact that Schindler was every bit the womanizer as he was an astute, cagey businessman who made deals with the Nazis to set up an enamelware factory in the Cracow ghetto and employ the Jewish populace there. But his very trusted secretary Itzhak Stern (Ben Kingsley) manages to awaken a latent spark of humanity in the once cold-blooded Schindler. By the time the war is over and the facts are known about the Nazi atrocities, Schindler is financially broke but spiritually enriched. "He who saves one life saves the world entire."

  Filmed in somber, documentary-like black-and-white by Janusz Kaminski, SCHINDLER'S LIST features superb performances by Neeson and Kingsley, as well as British actor Ralph Fiennes as the extraordinarily chilling Nazi commandant Amon Goeth, whose basic senses of Nazi business Schindler must appeal to while keeping the fact that he is sheltering the Jews a secret. Spielberg spares nothing in showing us the horrors of the Nazis barbarism; and although it is, not surprisingly, a very lengthy film (three hours and ten minutes), a lot happens for us to absorb, so it never becomes ponderous or heavy-handed.

  Winner of seven Oscars, including a Best Director nod to Spielberg that was long overdue, SCHINDLER'S LIST shows us the worst in humanity, but also the best as well. Even in so much pain and death, there is hope. And that is why this film is such a masterpiece.
  
  

• Powerful!!! The Best movie of the last 50 years!!!

  
  By A30TV77PK8UDTV on 2002-12-04
  Schinlder's List is the only movie I have ever seen in a theater where everyone there didn't move during the movie and stayed through the credits. The movie is so moving and powerful words can't do it justice. Spielberg for all of his great movies: Jaws, Close Encounters, Raider's, ET ect. None compare with the masterpiece that is Schilder's List. Not even Saving Privite Ryan, while being as powerful, the movie doesn't hold together as well as Schinder's List. Spielberg threw his heart and soul in this movie and you can tell. The Holocaust is one of the most tragic events in human history, and no movie can ever relate the horror of what happened. But in Schindler's List Spielberg comes as close as one can. The film is shot in Poland on some of the actual sights the real events happened. The true story of how a German businessman/war profiteer saved over 1100 Jews in WWII. With great performances by Liam Leeson, Ben Kingsley and a truely horrifying performance by Ralph Fiennes. This movie tells a story of the power of the human spirit.
  
  

• Horrible subject brought beautifully to film

  
  By A2PN7Z2VTHICL8 on 2003-08-14
  Wow. Just wow. That's all. Gripping, moving, tear jerking, uplifting, top notch acting, stunning photography, script line in synch with the book, true life ending, OMG. This is the story of Oskar Schindler who kept over 1,000 people alive during the Nazi reign. This is a movie (and book) you must watch (or read) to believe. I generally do not care for "war" movies, and although I love splatter films and gory fiction books, I despise real life violence. Having once been a victim of violent crime, I have a relationship with real life horror that I do not like to explore, but the heroism of this story so dramatically overwhelms the real horrors that it is a must see for anyone. Liam Neeson is phenomenal in his role as Schindler, and Ben Kingsley along with Ralph Finnes fills out the superb acting. Difficult to watch, impossible to forget, it is truly the story of heroism on its grandest scale.
  The most poignant moment is the one, the only, faded splash of faint color in the little girls red coat; the rest of the movie is black and white, which only adds to the impact of the total emotion of this fantastic film.
  
  
• Steven Spielberg's magnum opus to date!
  By A3OBBWCDNIYT8D on 2000-08-07
  Schindler's List is such an emotionally shattering and gripping movie that no true words can even describe it. There are scenes in this movie that will live in your memory forever. The performances from Liam Neeson, Ben Kingsley, and Ralph Fiennes are flawless. The soundtrack is also great, with sad, classical music from the great John Williams and violinist Itzhak Perlman. The last few scenes of this movie are so moving, inspirational, and touching that you find yourself literally crying when Oskar Schindler says to Itzhak Stern that he could have got more Jews out of the concentration camps. When Schindler suddenly breaks down and cries, he is so magnificent. I think that crying emotionally on-screen in movies is a greater and better acting style than others. Liam Neeson can act in the last scene he's in, and in general. He should have won the Oscar for playing Oskar Schindler in this movie. Director Steven Spielberg really created a true masterpiece with this movie. This movie should be shown in every history class there is in high school. It is a triumph!
  
  
• Poor DVD Authoring
  By on 2004-04-08
  So, it's a DVD-18 (double-sided, dual-layered). That's OK, although I would have preferred if they had done a 2-disc single-sided dual-layered set instead. Double-sided DVD's have a tendency to get scratched more easily, and I sometimes have trouble reading the tiny print telling you which side is which (printed around the hub).

  Here's my problem with the DVD, though.... When you switch sides, there is no option available to choose a soundtrack. It simply defaults to Dolby Digital 5.1 English. To select the soundtrack, you must go to the main menu on side 2 and select your language. So much for Spanish and French! If you select DTS 5.1 English, then the DTS trailer plays again before taking you back to the movie, which is a bit disruptive. That is just sloppy authoring. At least on the 4-disc editions of the Lord Of The Rings films, there is a link to Audio Setup before taking you back to the movie.

  Also, I would have preferred some supplemental info that pertained to the making of the movie in addition to what is offered here.
  
  

• The Rest Is Silence
  By AOOCDN5TFZ9QP on 2003-07-16
  Schindler's List (Widescreen Edition)I saw this movie for the first time along with a group of seven other people, in a completely full theater. When the curtain went down and the lights came on, everyone got up and moved to the door, but no one said a word. Not one. It was dead quiet all the way out to the street. I've never experienced anything like that.
  
  I was raised knowing all about the six million we lost in the Holocaust, not to mention the five or six million others who died in the camps, but I didn't really get it until Spielberg silenced me and everyone else in the room. How did he do it?
  
  First of all, he chose the right protagonist. Oskar Schindler, the savior of a thousand Jews, was anything but an angel - he toadied up to those in power unashamedly, paid bribes with money he didn't have, took advantage of the unfortunate for his own ends, cheated endlessly on his wife, and kept his eye on his bottom line to the exclusion of everything else. He was flawed, vulnerable and human, like you and me, and through his reaction to what he sees we can feel the indescribable horror as we could not through the reactions of a saint. There's a scene in this movie where Schindler, out for a horseback ride with one of his girlfriends, happens upon a mountain of corpses being burned. A saint might look sad or angry at such a scene - Liam Neeson's expression is that of a man falling off a cliff he didn't know was there. Faced with such carnage, that's probably how I'd look, too.
  
  Spielberg's other smart move was filming "Schindler's List" in black and white. Siskel and Ebert have pointed out, rightly, that black and white makes images appear somehow eternal, like historical documents rather than mere pictures. That's certainly true here, but it works on many levels. Sometimes the black and white photography has a matte finish and takes on the character of news photography, showing how banal (and therefore how terrifying) an image is, such as those times when Ralph Fiennes Commandant Goeth shoots a few passing prisoners for breakfast. On the other hand, "Schindler's List" contains a great many images that look like they were etched on mirrors, such as the famous shot of a little boy hiding from the Nazis at the bottom of a latrine. At those moments, even when (as one character says) "all around lies the gulf," the pictures soak up a truly heavenly light, as though Someone were watching.
  
  The performers involved certainly behave as though Someone were watching, and they turn in the work of their lives, from the stars to the bit players. Neeson has just the right sort of big, craggy face that can show decadence one minute and agony the next, and he's got the talent to run the whole gamut in all the right places. Fiennes, in his first major role, resembles nothing so much as a sort of human hog, but a cunning and crazed one - he seems able to sweat on cue. Ben Kingsley as Schindler's factory manager, with almost no change in his facial expression, makes us see how he moves from suspicion to hope to love for this strange animal, his boss. And besides these monumental performances, there's the black marketeer who finagles his customers with one breath and loves his wife with the next; the engineer who sacrifices her life to the fact that concrete needs to be poured with care; the old hinge-maker who waits on his knees for a miracle involving a jammed gun; the pretty young woman who informs Schindler that he's running a haven rather than a factory; the kindly but finally gutless industrialist, and a many dozen others, all unforgettable.
  
  And then there's Spielberg's damping down his usual sentimentality, his choice of Yiddish music for the soundtrack, his placement of the camera at a quiet and unobtrusive angle for the worst of evils - I found all of this pretty nearly perfect, but there were those who complained about the movie's historical inaccuracy. In one scene, much noted for its supposed softening of the facts, Schindler's female "employees" find themselves in a big room with shower heads in the ceiling and actually get a shower instead of a flood of poison gas. It's true that most prisoners were not so fortunate, and that such scenes may play into the hands of the filth who claim that there was no cyanide in the camps, but I can't see that as an argument against this movie. If nothing else, the looks of tension on the women's faces before the water comes down is more than enough to tell us what they expect to get.
  
  After all, Spielberg is not a documentarian, he's a storyteller; this story could not have had a better servant. The meaning of the Holocaust is as plain as plain here, particularly at the end when Schindler realizes that he could have saved a few more human beings if he had just thought to sell his car or his gold Nazi pin. He crumples weeping to his knees, only to be lifted up by the men and women he has saved.
  
  A little later we learn that the descendants of Schindler's Jews living in Israel outnumber the entire current Jewish population of Poland. That silences all criticism, as the movie audience already knew. Hence the quiet after the final credits.
  
  Benshlomo says nothing.
  
  
• Great Movie - Disappointing Set
  By A3PWPNZVMNX3PA on 2004-03-27
  I was very excited to see the DVD of Schindler's List finally released. So excited, in fact, that I bought the Collector's Edition. To my dismay, it was not a very exciting collection.

  Before I get to that, I will just state that the movie is as good as ever and it has been some time since I have seen it. The quality is clean and clear, while sound is great. This is a film that utilizes the widescreen aspect and should be seen in this format (why they even offer a full screen is beyond my comprehension). Nonetheless, it is an amazing film; certainly Spielberg's finest to date.

  The collection that comes with the DVD does not quite meet the films quality. What you will receive in the set is a picture disc of the soundtrack. The soundtrack is from John Williams, and perhaps one of his most moving scores I have heard from him. While he instills his usual thematic sound, the music in this film has a deeply personal emotion that is carried with it, along with Itzhak Perlman's violin solos. Truly beautiful music, however sad it may sound.

  Along with the soundtrack is a senitype, which is a reproduction of one of the 35mm frames. I imagine they are the same pictures, one of the girl in the red coat walking along the streets. Its a nice photo, but why do I want it? What am I going to do with it?

  Also is a small hardcover book of images from the film. A nice book as well, but with a book that shows photos of the movie, why look at the book when you can just watch the movie? Very little in the making of the film.

  Finally is a Certificate of Authenticity. Now this just tops the cake. I mean, a Certificate that says this is a real AND official collector's set, because if I did not get one of these, I was going to assume this was a bootleg of some sort. There is not even a printed autograph! It just brags about the film and tells you what the set offers, which, if you did not open the set to see what was in it, you could not read this little certificate to see what was in it. Completely stupid.

  If that does not thrill you enough, then you will also get a little pamphlet that tells you about the SHOAH organization which you can send some money to support them. Ugh.

  The DVD offers some extras. No commentary, no behind the scenes footage. Can't break that fourth wall, now!! Keep it real! But you will get stories of the real Schindler Jews who have survived. You will also learn about the SHOAH organization. Furthermore is a video on Schindler's life, which is probably the best extra on the disc. The DVD is two-sided which is another unfortunate aspect which takes me back to the laser-disc days when I had to flip the disc over to continue the film. That annoyws me that I have to do that.

  The best part of the collection is the case, which is a plexiglass casing with the names of the list printed in gray. Its pretty cool. While all this stuff is held in a slip case, which does not hold it very well, the plexiglass case has some metal dowels to keep it all in place.

  In all, a poor set and for the price, definately not worth it. If I had known it was going to be a disappointing set, I would have just saved my money and bought the movie only version.

  The ratings are 5 stars for the movie, and 2 stars for the set, which culminates to about 3 stars overall. If you love the movie, get the movie, not this set.
  
  

• It's about time they release this on DVD
  By AI0OAQ6E2O8VF on 2003-12-08
  First of all this film is recommended for mature audiences.

  It is a very good account of the Schindler Jews.

  It still is an excellent film and has superb acting. It helped bring Liam Neeson's career into the international spotlight. It also helped launch Ralph Finnes' career. Stephen Spielberg refused to accept any money for this film, thinking it would be 'blood money'.

  The film's portrayal of the Holocaust was also downplayed in order to make it more suitable for a larger audience. The Holocaust was MUCH worse than this film makes it seem. The John Williams score is also very memorable. One interesting note is that early in the film when Schindler goes to the party, you can hear the song, "Por Una Cabeza" made popular by the film "Scent of a Woman"

  For many of the supporting cast members, this is still their first American film to date.

  One of the most memorable scenes was the prologue when the acutal people portrayed in the film and the actors portraying them, visited Oskar Schindler's grave in Jerusalem. Also in that scene Liam Neeson puts flowers on Schindler's grave, though it is often mistakenly thought that Stephen Spielberg was the one doing that.

  Overall this is an excellent but depressing film and I hope the DVD version will be loaded with extra features.
  
  

• Finally Out On DVD - A Must Own For Everyone
  By A3HTX1NOTTWERP on 2004-05-07
  Well, where to begin? Usually I can twitter on for pages about a product, but this is a tough one. Well, let me start with my opinion that Schindler's List is the best film ever made, and deserves all the critical praise it has received. Never before have I seen such an emotionally powerful film.

  I am the grandson of a man who, at the age of 14, was trapped in a concentration camp, before later escaping through some miracle. He wasn't Jewish, but lived in Russia and was hauled off one day when he found out that his father had been dead for months, even though he continued to receive letters from him. He later discovered the letters had been written by the Nazis, and sent to him as a cover up. He refused to talk about his experiences, even until his death in July 1996, so I have always tried to find other information about this dark period in history through sources such as books, films and documentaries. I first saw Schindler's List a few years ago, but never watched it all the way through - until recently.

  Schindler's List revolves around a true story of Oskar Schindler who helped save the lives of more than a thousand Jews from a terrible fate. In the film, Oskar Schindler is a well-known Catholic, drinker and womaniser who is just in the whole extermination process to make pots of money at the expense of the Jews. He only cares about himself, and is more bothered about his public image than anything else. With all this behind him, he is hardly a man who thinks about...until he starts spending more time at the concentration camps. As the true horrors of the Holocaust unfold, his conscience changes dramatically until the point where he is willing to do anything he can in his power to save 1,100 Jews.

  Liam Neeson is absolutely amazing as Oskar Schindler. I cannot think of any other actor than him to play this part. He pulls off the role very effectively and professionally, considering the subject was so hard to pull off. The perfect counterpart to Schindler's character is that of the evil German Nazi commandant Amon Goathe. Played by the remarkable Ralph Fiennes, his character is one of pure evil. The man is demonic, heartless and totally frigid. He has no care for anyone else but himself, and has piercing eyes that will no doubt have been the subject of millions of nightmares. Continual praise is essential for Fiennes, as it must have been very hard to re-enact some of the scenes that caused so much shock and terror throughout the world.

  Ben Kingsley is also wonderful as Itzhak Stern, the Jewish man who works as Schindler's accountant. He doesn't have much of a large part in the film, but that all changed when he is needed to type up Oskar's list of people to save. The entire cast consists of more than 30,000 extras who give amazing performances as truly terrified Jews, giving the film a very real feel of what actually happened.

  The way Schindler's List is filmed in black and white is perfect. This gives the film a documentary style, which is just the way director Steven Spielberg wanted it. There are only a few colour segments, but these are put to optimum use in making the viewer take note. The most famous of these is the one where Schindler sees a little girl in a red coat running away from the Nazis. He continues to watch her escape, until he later sees her on a pile of bodies awaiting cremation at a concentration camp. He is truly shocked. Spielberg is expressing the horror of the Holocaust here by saying that not even the young and innocent are spared. There are some truly shocking and disturbing scenes in this film, but all of which are brilliant in their tried ways to describe what actually went on. There are many random killings for no apparent reason at all.

  This Special Edition of Schindler's List is truly one of the most essential DVD's you could ever hope to own. The movie is, in my opinion, the best I have ever had the pleasure to view. The emotion on display just blows you away, and to own the Special Edition is a great advantage for DVD fanatics. The extra features include:

  - Movie soundtrack
  - Book
  - Senitype from the film
  - Voices From The List documentary
  - The Shoah Foundation Story With Steven Spielberg
  - Cast and crew
  - About Oskar Schindler

  OVERALL GRADE: 10/10

  Schindler's List is my all-time favourite film and is definitely one that all young people should see. It's different for me because my grandad went through almost everything that is in this film, and that makes me think of him as someone very heroic and courageous. While not a film you can watch again and again, Schindler's List is one that will change you and your views on the supposed idealistic world that we live in. It makes you realise how cruel society can be and how far it is possible of going if we let it. Buy this film now - you'll see things totally differently after watching it.
  
  

• My favorite movie of all time is finally on DVD!
  By A1H9D7UTKW58F8 on 2003-12-19
  It's about time they made this movie into DVD. I was hoping to see this movie in DVD because of the bonus material. It is a beautiful film, sad, (it makes me cry everytime I see it) but reminds me that even in the mist of evil there is goodness within people.

  I love Liam Neeson in this movie. He is a great actor but this role is his best. There's also other great actors like Ben Kingsley. Spielberg is a genius and I don't have to say he has other great films, but this is his absolute masterpiece. Great cinematography, and the black and white effect is fenomenal. John Williams, my favorite composer made beautiful and hartfelt music.

  I have seen other holocaust movies and they don't compare to this one. I agree that the actual holocaust is much worse than this, and it's needless to say that we shouldn't call a great movie that shows such atrocities, but this movie, rather than just showing the crude truth, it's there, we know, and we feel the pain somehow, but it also shows the greatness of people that endured to survive (all Holocaust survivors), and that people such as Oskar Schindler (like so many others of his time) that didn't have to worry about a thing (they were protected by money and powerful allies), turned his life around to help others, and this was a matter of life and death.

  This movie has to be in my DVD collection! Anyone that has not seen this movie, it's just Hollywood at it's finest!
  
  

• Bad excuse for a DVD edition
  By A1Y6KW8HYJWFZC on 2004-03-11
  Everyone already knows how great and critically acclaimed this film is so this is a review of the DVD. This will probably go down as one of the biggest let-downs (for me) in DVD anticipations. Sure you have the widescreen version with great sound on DVD, but thats it. For People who already have the VHS versions, you pay more money for a little better picture and sound and you get cheated on features. Instead of a great commentary or documentary you get more preachy propaganda Spielburg dumped onto the second side of the disc. I have a feeling that Spielburg wanted the film to be the highlight of the DVD and not the extras, but in my opinion, extras never hurt...especially if your going to price it like it has tons of extras on it. If you want to be emotionally, or spiritually moved watch the movie, you don't really need to see the lousy extras. My advice is to only buy the widescreen DVD verion if you don't already have it in VHS.
  
  
• A very important film.
  By A1AEJ6I2Q42UB0 on 2004-01-29
  I find myself compelled to take issue with the "viewer from San Jose", and his/her review titled "good movie, bad research" dated January 23 2004.

  While I do not suggest that Mr. Spielberg was 100% spot on regarding the historical accuracies of the film, I believe that this reviewer has completely missed the point. Oskar Schindler was a flawed man, no one will deny that. It is however historical record that that he personally saved some 900 Jewish lives. Mr. Spielberg has simply chosen his story to inform a wide audience of a limited number of events from a period that was probably the lowest point in human history. I guess the reason why he chose Schindler above, say, Rauol Wallenberg, is simply due to the existence of the excellent Novel by Thomas Keneally.

  (I personally believe that the one real flaw of Schindler's List is to portray a story with an essentially happy ending, but of course this is the problem with almost all holocaust films, since they portray "survivor's tales". The true horror of the holocaust lies in the stories of the those that did not survive, but conventional wisdom suggests no one would pay money to sit through a film that depressing, and they are probably right)

  While the reviewer is correct to point out that tens of millions of other people were killed during the Second World War, comparing 20 million Russians and 8 million Germans dying as the consequence of the war, mainly through fighting and starvationas a result of war, to the industrialized wholesale slaughter of the Jews is misleading. Hilter set his sights on one particular people above all; the Jews. At the end of the war, cattle trains transporting Jews to the gas chambers were given priority above trains transporting troops and supplies to the front lines. The entire War finally boiled down to a psychopathic desire to rid Europe of Jews once and for all. (lets not forget that had the Nazis succeeded in North Africa, the same fate would have awaited Jews there).
  As for the 5 million Poles he mentions, 3 million of them were Jews for crying out loud. A typically misleading statistic commonly used by Holocaust deniers.

  Now, for the reviewer's suggestion that Poland was full of people trying to help the Jews, the only reason why Poles make up a large proportion of the list of "righteous gentiles" is because half of the Jews in Europe happenned to live in Poland. They were therefore afforded far more opportunities to save Jews than any other nation. Why does the reviewer think that the camps were located in Poland? The reason is twofold - firstly, it was logistically the closest location to the largest Jewsish population, secondly, it was well known that Poles would tolerate the camps since they were among the most anti semitic people in Europe. A non Jewish friend of mine while visitng the Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem (Yad Vashem) upon viewing the 13000 names of the "righteous gentiles" commented that there should in fact be millions of them, that every European should have tried to save Jews. It should be the rule, rather than the exception, shouldn't it?

  As for the reviewer's comments of the brutality of the Jewish police, this purely and simply an indication of being influenced by Holocaust deniers. While I will not deny that these people did not act in a despicable manner by cooperating with the Nazis (they did this out of a sense of self preservation mostly) it is ridiculous to suggest that they were as evil as the murderers of the SS. There are no stories (except perhaps concosted lies) about "Judenrat" stomping on pregnant women's stomachs or shooting children in front of their parents. And to complain that Schindler's List is too focused on the Jews is like complaining that 9-11 documentaries and books are too focused on American losses when there were dozens of other nationals that died.

  In the end, the most important point about this film is that it has drawn the attention of many people to the most shameful event in history. To paraphrase a character from the last Woody Allen film, if the punishment for the occurence of the holocaust would be the ceasation of mankind's continued existence, it could be argued that this punishment would be deserved and fair.
  
  

• One of the best!
  By A2KM1GPWFIU3CT on 2006-08-22
  English is not my first language but oh well , I wanna write this review anyway!
  I read many reviewers say about the inacuracy of Schidler's story. Personally I think "Who gives a sh...t about that"?
  The messege of the movie is "Schindler saved lots of jews" ...This is all We wanted to learn.
  
  Some reviewers were saying that...Schindler saved jews for his own benefit (I think that is not true anyway). Even if that is true .....again ... "Who gives a shi....t if he saved jews for his own benefit . All we know is at least about 1000 jews didn't die because of Schindler? We should Thank to Schindler anyway!
  
  Some reviewers were saying about the MORALITY. Then why do you people ask Spilburg about the morality? Why don't you people ask this question to the Nazis? They are the one who killed miilions jewish!
  
  
  This movie teaches me so many things. Teach me to give and not to be "too" greedy and also care for another people. Unlike another movie that you just watch and laugh and that's it ....doesn't give you much back. If it is not because of this movie ....Maybe in this life I would never know a man named "SCHINDLER"
  
  Anyway, enough with my horible English. Last thing I wanna say is ...THIS MOVIE IS GREAT! WATCH IT !!!! YOU WILL LEARN SO MUCH FROM THE MOVIE!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• "Whoever saves one life..."
  By A36EW68H08UOCS on 2005-07-26
  Steven Spielberg's film achievements stand unreachably tall in Hollywood, and "Schindler's List" is his masterpiece.
  
  Oskar Schindler was not, by many measurements, a "good" man. He was a womanizer and failed several marriages. He was a german war profiteer during World War II, and failed several businesses after the war. He also took steps of bravery and personal sacrifice to preserve the lives of over 1,100 Polish Jews. At the end of the film a graphic tells us that today there are fewer than 4,000 Jews in Poland, but that there are 6,000 descendants of those saved by Oskar Schindler's actions.
  
  Liam Neeson also gives the performance of his career as Schindler. He is comfortable cajoling and cavorting with the Nazi's. He is initially only a businessman, and doesn't hesitate to bribe Nazi officials to get preferential business arrangements.
  
  Ben Kingsley shines in a performance reminiscent in some ways of his luminescent portrayal of Gandhi. He portrays Itzhak Stern, an accountant Schindler hires to do all the work of Schindler's businesses while Schindler himself is glad-handing the Nazi's and "adding some panache" to the business. The central relationship of the film is between Schindler and Stern as the situation becomes increasingly grim for the Jews and Schindler realizes that he can use the same techniques that he has developed as a businessman to create "safe" jobs for the Jews. As long as the Jews are working in Schindler's factory they are spared extermination. At one point the German's are in danger of losing the ground where Schindler's factory sits and they are ordered to "liquidate" the camp again. Schindler uses all his war profits to "buy" the Jews from Goeth, then to relocate them to another factory where they will make artillery ammunition on machines that Schindler has miscalibrated. Schindler expends his entire fortune to save the Jews in an ammunition factory that never produced a shell that could be fired.
  
  Ralph Fiennes steps out onto a limb portraying the terrible Amon Goeth, who rapes and murders and forgives himself as the camp commander over the Jews. To accomplish his goals Schindler befriends even Goeth, and in one memorable scene Oskar appeals to Goeth's vanity to have him stop being so trigger-happy murdering the Jewish prisoners.
  
  We see horrors more terrible than any horror film. The Jews are initially all herded into the Krakow ghetto, then it is decided that the ghetto is to be emptied - Nazi soldiers stroll through the streets murdering Jews in cold blood. Later a trainload of Jewish women are mistakenly routed to Auschwitz. Their terror is palpable as they see the smoke billowing from the chimneys over the ovens. They are then stripped and herded into the showers where they have heard the whispers of the "special treatment" that the Jews are receiving. The terror of that scene is beyond any fictional machete-wielding movie madman.
  
  Spielberg is a master of visual storytelling, and he made a brilliant decision to shoot in black and white, but to use color in just a few shots for a few specific items. In one key scene candle flames burn their brilliant orange and in another mesmerizing use of color Spielberg highlights the red coat of a little girl who is walking through the carnage of the liquidation of Krakow. When we see the red coat again an hour later, our eyes are drawn to it, and we know it's meaning.
  
  Spielberg attaches faces to the Holocaust. The ending is one of the most powerful ever seen as the actual survivors are paired with the actors portraying them in the movie. They line up to file past Oskar Schindler's grave and we feel the impact of Schindler's actions.
  
  He has not "saved the world", but he has saved many, many lives.
  
  
  
• Whoever Saves One Life Saves the World Entire!
  By A2Q07KQAAFWVL7 on 2001-04-28
  That's the tagline of Steven Spielberg's 1993 holocaust epic, SCHINDLER'S LIST (a film that has inspired me with my own film, TRIANGLE). What is this film? A documentary? A memorial service? A biopic? The answer is all of the above. It is a realistic look at a man who began as a womanizing criminal and ended as a sympathetic savior to thousands of Jewish people.

  Based on Thomas Keneally's bestselling novel, it is passionate look at the Jewish struggle during the ghetto liquidation by the Nazis and in the concentration camps.

  Filmed entirely on location in Poland and in black-and-white, with some color aspects, SCHINDLER'S LIST brings to life one of the saddest chapters in history. Starring Liam Neeson as industrialist Oskar Schindler; Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth; Ben Kingsley as Schindler's accountant Itzhak Stern; and Caroline Goodall as Schindler's wife, Emilie.

  This is a film too sad to imagine, but also very important to watch and shameful to miss. Neeson does an extraordinary job in showing us the man who saved so many lives. A man whom most would call a pirate, he has shown us a brighter light. But, honestly, the one who impressed me (and shocked me the most) was Ralph Fiennes as a Nazi superior. Fiennes was known for playing romantic heroes on the London stage before playing such a dastardly role. (In the end, you can't help but cheer when he is eventually hanged.) And to Ben Kingsley (Oscar-winner for GANDHI), always the dependable one! His Stern provided me enough time to breathe a sign of relief and smile at his nervously mousy character. From his being trapped inside the train to his trying to reason with Schindler about the one-arm man's dependability working in the factory (a rare comedic moment in the film).

  This is a triumph in every way possible! To watch a man, whom we never even heard of, save thousands of lives is heart-breakingly wonderful. Good job, Steven!

  Winner of 7 Academy Awards including: Best Picture - Steven Spielberg, Branko Lustig & Gerald R. Molen; Best Director - Steven Spielberg; Best Adapted Screenplay - Steven Zaillian; Best Cinematography - Janusz Kaminski; Best Art Direction/Set Decoration - Allan Starski, Ewa Braun; Best Score - John Williams; and Best Film Eediting - Michael Kahn.

  Approximately: 3 HOURS and 17 MINUTES
  
  

• Shocking, Horrifying, A Must See
  By A3BVRA2QL3TIOQ on 2000-09-07
  Probably one of the most disturbing films of the last century, Schindler's List is a triumph of cinematography. It takes you into the world of Naziism at its horrible height. You'll see in graphic detail, the atrocities inflicted on the Jewish people during Adolf Hitler's reign of terror. You'll understand why Naziism is so hated by most of the world today and you'll wonder at how cruel man can be towards another human being. Some could look at this movie in disbelief and say to themselves "this is hogwash, no human being could do such a thing to another person. No one is that cruel". But, oh my friend, let me assure you that such evils did occur on the Jewish people as well as on millions of other people who the Nazi's considered enemies of the Third Reich. Our own government has photographic proof of the atrocities of World War II, as well as first hand accounts by the millions of soldiers who charged into Nazi concentration camps and forever had their lives changed by what they saw. A good friend of mine who served in World War II, witnessed the horrors of a concentration camp when he and his comrades went in to free its prisoners. He died an alcoholic, and the reason why he became one was because of everything he had experienced while at the camp. His eyes took in the sight of bodies in mass graves, he smelled the stench of rotting corpses of men women and children. He told me that when he first arrived at the camp, he waded through blood up to his ankles. He also told me he never got over what he saw, and that many a nightmare have plagued his sleep. He was your typical "Joe", just a regular soldier from a small town in North Carolina, a normal red blooded American, but one scarred for life by the morbid reality of war, and the inhumanity caused by the Nazi Party. I don't find the scenes of terror portrayed in the movie, hard to believe. Just pick up the morning paper or watch the evening news and you can see for yourself how evil mankind can really be. The movie is about a industrialist named Oskar Schindler, who employed Jews to help them escape the horrors of the concentration camp, even going so far as to create new jobs for them at his factory. The courage he had and the intelligence he possessed is inspiring. With great risk to his own safety, Oskar Schindler helped over 1000 Jews escape the grasp of a Nazi regime. This movie is not recommended for those with weak stomachs or for viewers under age 13, as it contains graphic violence and nudity. But I do highly recommend it to anyone interested in studying the plight of Jews in World War II or who are wanting to study the history of Nazi Germany or for anyone who seeks supreme inspiration.
  
  
• Absolute Masterpiece.
  By A351HIWZ3U8AKI on 2007-11-27
  Every once in a while, a movie does more than simply entertain. This movie moves you, make you think, makes you want to take action, and most importantly, perhaps, it leaves an imprint on your life. Schindler's List is one of these movies. It does all of the previously described and so much more.
  
  Schindler's List is about a rather selfish and greedy businessman named Oskar Schindler (Liam Neeson). His only concern is making money, and if he happens to help people while doing it, so be it. However, he begins to become almost obsessed with the idea of saving these people after seeing the horrors incurred on them from the grip of Hitler and especially the psychopathic Amon Goeth (Ralph Finnes).
  
  This movie is powerful in its writing and its storytelling. To see Schindler transform into this man who begins to use his absolute genius in business to save lives stirs up emotion in the viewer. To see Goeth's insanity allowed to manifest itself in his concentration camp sends shivers up the spine and feelings of disgust rise up. Schindler's List even raises questions about politics and shows what happens if politics goes awry--mass chaos. One cannot help but want to yell out in some extremely tense and dramatically ironic scenes in the movie, which shows it's genius by stirring up the viewer.
  
  The movie is also a work of art. Using every possible artistic direction, the movie is even just simply beautiful to watch. It is shot entirely in black and white (except for one little girl's red coat) which simply adds to the setting of the movie. Lighting is used multiple times to help create mood. Camera angles are always different and help to cause emotion to, again, coming pouring out of the movie.
  
  The only negative I have about this movie is that you probably won't be able to do much afterwards due to the emotional drain you will experience.
  
  I cannot recommend this movie highly enough.
  
  
• CONSCIENCE: THAT SLENDER EMOTION THAT MAKES US THE SAME
  By A1L8HRCM60W0W7 on 2004-05-21
  Unlike the glossy schoolboy fantasies from outer space that make up a bulk of Spielberg's roster, Schindler's List is a work of unsensational realism, resonating with clever observation from start to finish.

  When I read the film's decription, I thought it'd be a collection of scenes about the Holocaust. And I thought, big deal. But the movie has some very vivid, poignant moments. There are enough characters, enough motivations, enough idiosyncrasies to make the screenplay rich enough to keep us always involved. Yet, the director does not shy from the humanity of the bad guys and the shortcomings of the good ones.

  Ben Kingsley makes for a fabulous fidgety character, ever so worried but in a palpable outwardly manner. Liam Neeson as the pivot is very convincing. But the cake I feel goes to Ralph Fiennes who mastered the European accent of English to such perfection that I almost scorned him as a true soldier of the war. His casual demeanor while shooting a couple of workers in the camps from his balcony was a sight to behold.

  BUT the most stunning thing about this movie, as it unfolds, is the pang of conscience in a simple man that made all the difference in the lives of so many. The gruesome scenes of the lives lost in the dastardly "war" is etched in my memory, and the number of people Schindler saved was impressive, but the thing I remember having being touched MOST by is how such an imperfect man found himself doing something so perfect.

  All in all, despite the undeservedly featureless DVD that Universal has slapped this movie on, it must be a prominent part of every movie collection!
  
  

• A true must see
  By A3V6Z4RCDGRC44 on 2004-03-06
  This amazingly powerful film tells of a war profiteer in WW2 who turns into a savior of Jews. Liam Neeson plays the title Oskar Schindler, a Nazi party member who makes great money using the slave labor during World War II. Little by little he realizes just what he is wrapped up in, and he risks his life and fortune to start saving the Jewish people. By the end, he has rescued over 1,000 Jews.

  The movie won numerous awards even though Spielberg risked his modern audience by shooting the film mostly in black and white. He in fact won Best Picture of 1993. Ralph Fiennes was brilliant as Amon Goeth, and Ben Kingsley was great as Itzhak Stern. There are so many great performances in the movie that it's almost a shame to call a few out.

  Even with the black and white colors, you immediately get immersed in this story. I know many people who lived through Poland and Germany in World War II and the attention to detail is just immense. Many, many people that I talk with came out of this movie viewing in tears. It is not a 'historical' movie. It's a movie about real people, in a real situation, and the very difficult choices they had to make. It is about taking the difficult road that you know is right, rather than coasting along the easy road.

  I really recommend this as a must-watch to any person over age 13. If a youngster is to watch this one, I recommend watching it with an adult so the issues can be talked about afterwards.
  
  

• one double-sided DVD
  By A1W2KLMLKYY7M8 on 2004-07-21
  I bought the DVD and was stunned to see that it was a single disc that I was forced to turn over to watch the rest of the movie. This was reminiscent of my laserdisc days when I was constantly getting up to turn the disc over. Mind you, there are actually two discs in my package, but the second contains extras. Steven, if you're reading this, you know better than the rest of us that it costs just pennies to produce another DVD and save those of us with DVD changers the labor of turning the disc over.
  
  Aside from that, the movie moved me like no other I have ever seen. It is powerful, poignant and raw. Like I have heard and read, there were times when it seemed as though I was being directed in my emotions, rather than presenting an unbelievable time in history as fact and letting me feel my own emotions. There is no doubt that the holocaust was one of the single worst events in human history and Steven has done an amazing job of sharing the life of Oskar Schindler and the Schindler Jews.
  
  
• not on DVD? now THAT is a crime!
  By ARA94YWRAIAWG on 2003-05-18
  A true masterpiece and of such nature that one must own it and show it to anyone who will watch...
  
  
• Perhaps the most important film ever
  By AP0DQSDFSLP4P on 2002-11-08
  A gripping and gut-wrenching no-holds bar account of probably the darkest chapter in human history, it is no exaggeration that watching "Schindler's List" in one sitting is near impossible. Keeping in mind the subject matter is neither fiction nor entertainment, its reality - the unspeakable depth of human devastation inflicted by man himself as perpetrated by Hitler's Third Reich, i.e., the Holocaust - will force the viewer to get up for air. From its "entertainment" perspective, the film earned Steven Spielberg a richly deserved and belated Best Director Oscar, and Oscar-nominated Liam Neeson, as German industrial Oskar Schindler trying to spare his Jewish factory workers from Hitler's death camps, is at his best in his craft. Beyond that, this film is so gripping that its glutches refuse to let us turn from its brutal reality but compels us to keep watching to remember so as to never let this human carnage occur again. In the end, we do get some redemption, some hope, because human kindness was not completely obliterated. More specifically, though, this film is a horrifying monument to the evil that man can do. But it is also a magnificent tribute to the memories of the 12 million victims who didn't make Schindler's list. This film ought to be mandtory viewing.
  
  
• 5-star movie with 1-star packaging
  By A2J64PDMVLC3VY on 2004-03-18
  As others have observed, the packaging for this movie is abominable. Furthermore, the extras are nowhere near what is expected of such a monumental work of cinema. No commentary, no trailers; Finding Nemo had better extras than this DVD. I really enjoy this film, but it deserved better than this.
  
  
• An Unforgettable Work
  By A2DBBXMV6GS3CL on 2002-04-30
  Masterfully Directed, Vividly Depicted, and brimming with emotion and history, Stephen Spielberg's Schindler's List is a pure work of genius and a sobering look at a horrible time and realm of human history - early twentieth century Europe and the Holocaust. From frame one to its powerfully climactic conclusion, the film running 184 minutes long evokes for over three hours the viewers very humanity while tracing the life of one man - Oskar Schindler (Liam Nisen) in his experience and development throughout the war. It is a work of absolute grandeur and historic retelling, important both in its subject and delineation of a horrible time in human history. The film is hauntingly presented with a recurring theme of John William music that serves to draw the whole together and cast an eerie loom of darkness throughout the film. It is disturbingly open in its depiction of people place and events, a movie worth much more than most of its kind, inspired, and truthful.
  The film traces one man, historically based Oskar Schindler in his development throughout the war - World War II - and Holocaust. He is an unique individual, oven shown in the light of a hero, yet humanized by his own flaws among which alcoholism, womanizing and personal greed dominate. Not the immediate figure the viewer will identify as a hero, nor the modest gentle soul that he is often associated with, Oskar Schindler is a man in the war to make money and become rich, Jews, Nazis, conflict all foreign and unimportant aspects to an ultimate goal of success. A tall and built man that rises above the rest in his audacity and determination, not to mention collective and sociable character, Schindler is throughout the film a continual conflict to himself and his aspirations for success. A likable character that undergoes profound change throughout the film, Schindler becomes the hero the title of the movie suggests having given up his wealth and livelihood to save a few insignificant Jewish live ands having in the end played the Nazis for his own benefit.
  Yet, the film is most important in the way it depicts Oscar Schindler overall, as a well adapted man to war, and resourceful entrepreneur. He is popular and well liked, with high ranking powerful friends, and the wealth to enjoy all the benefits of social mobility and bribery in a time the world has seemed to have fallen apart. He is an impeccable character in impeccable dress, openly a member of the Nazi party, yet increasingly opposed - if on a personal level - to Nazi atrocities. Nonetheless aimed at success, he is a able to culminate mild relationships with authorities to gain favors, all the while determined to exploit the war and the Jews for cheap labor.
  However, Schindler's ingenuity truly lies in his prowess at forming relationships and skill at scheming. Able to effectively exploit the Nazis in an increasing way throughout the film, he forms his industry under the work and experience of Jewish Itzhak Stern who played by Ben Kingsley formulates Schindler's business as a way to save his fellow Jews from a certain death. Stern recruits and aims at Jews most likely to be the target of Nazi anti-Semitism and cruelty, while providing for Schindler "skilled" labor, in order to generate his aspired wealth. However, above all Stern's relationship to Schindler as a Jew targeted by the party Schindler is openly a member is something of great importance to the film. Not only does he serve to change Schindler from a entrepreneur bent on success to a humanitarian solely caring for his Jews, but he seems to embody the whole of Jewish suffering from an indirect point of accountant.
  Based on the Holocaust however, the film does in an important way depict this horrible historical event. Whether it be through Spielberg's on-site filming at - Auschwitz and Schindler's factory among the notable others - or the horrible depiction of human suffering and cruelty focused in haunting black and white, the film adequately shows for perhaps the first time in Hollywood cinematography the true atrocities of the Holocaust and its effects on people. Focusing even more directly on a Nazi labor camp commandant Amon Goeth and his representation of absolute evil and depravity the film shows a man take Jews as target practice, kill twenty-five men for the actions of one, and devastatingly destroy the whole world of a people and one girl - Helen Hirsch - whom he falls in love with ironically, sparing only on his impulse of false affection. Regardless, in the end he is depicted as the ultimate atrocity, the manifestation of Nazi evil, and a symbol of the more widespread and horrible atrocities that made up the Holocaust.
  Above all a genius work of cinematography, acting and screenplay (Steven Zaillian) Schindler's List is not a celebration of people or history, but a solemn tale of darkness and depravity, outlining one of humanity's most dark and disturbing periods. It is a wonderfully crafted and depicted work, based on the novel of Thomas Keneally, it is hauntingly open in its depiction of Holocaust conditions and personal experiences. Its final powerful conclusion of a generation united with the survivors of the human atrocity is an exceptional and powerful conclusion to an phenomenal film, that ends in honor of Oskar Schindler and to all those who perished in the Holocaust. In the end however, the film leaves you in amazement and awe, the slow tune of William stirring in the depths of your mind evoking memories of a film that seems too realistic and harsh to be even remotely true. It leaves the forcible impression of suffering and heroism, and a important reminder of human good. "Whoever saves one life, saves the world entire," the tagline of a momentous movie and catastrophic story, of a devastated people and changed man - Oscar Schindler.
  
  
• Left me depressed for weeks
  By AORNDWCJJ2PAA on 2005-02-17
  This is truly one of the most powerful films of all time. ONe cannot help but be impacted by the raw reality that Spielberg reveals. Liam Neeson is the character whom Spielberg wants us all to be identified with. Neeson's character, underneath all the the seemingly inpenetrable disguise which he puts on, has a soft heart. This is especially seen in the scene whcih he drops to his knees and weeps knowing that he should have done more to save lives. Spielberg intertwines authentic Holocaust footage with personal character studies. THis is truly one of the few films that will not only stay with you many days after it is seen, but prompt you to do a little heart searching of your own. ONe cannot be unaffected by the showing of this absolute disregard for humanity and the atrocities which was committed by the Nazis. Spielbergs central character, Schindler, is one whom he and we all can identify with. Throughout the film, we can feel and understand every action and emotion which he goes through. The final scene in whcih some valuable stats are provided will absolutely shock you.
  
  
• Oskar Schindler a men
  By A2IFGGXG3YV3Y6 on 2004-03-11
  This movie is about a man and how he changed his views and understanding of mankind while trying to make his way in life.

  The setting is not light hearted and it follows into the severe atrocities committed against men, women and children without holding back. If you tour the holocaust museum in D.C. you get even a deeper appreciation for what this man did to save the few under his care.

  His list was truly the list of life, and this movie goes to great lengths to describe that to te viewer. It flows well, and is quite shocking if you've never seen holocaust footage. The actors have gone above and beyond to show the characters in their true light.

  This is an epic that needs to be told over and over again. "Those that forget the past and condemned to repeat it."
  
  

• movie
  By A461VTLW9G9YB on 2004-02-16
  I had to watch this film for school, I was very young and I didn't understand everything that happened in the film, but it had a profound impact on me. It is a very sad story but I definetly think all ages/races should see this film so something like this will never happen again.
  
  
• One of the most important films of any generation...
  By A8MOBUTMII8OM on 2004-02-10
  It is hard to state the importance of this film, either socially or morally, but to call it anything less than that would be a mistake. Schindler's List was not the kind of film I had at first expected to come from Steven Spielberg, having grown up with E.T. and Close Encounters. To say that I was surprised by the power of this film would be a gross understatement, never before I have found myself so moved by a work of cinema. The subject matter is so disturbing, the images haunt you long after the film has ended and Spielberg's use of black and white is a stark contrast to what we expect from movies today. If there is any movie that I would recommend, any film that I would beg my friends and family to witness... it is Schindler's List. It will stand throughout the ages as a testament to the horrors of the Holocaust, and the power that we each, as individuals, have to change the world even in the face humanity's worst. With a little help, and powerful reminders like this, maybe one day we truly will make certain that such a horrific act will never again take place.
  
  

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