Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser Reviews

• Shows great promise

  
  By AES43KF278B9B on 2005-10-21
  My install of this system went fairly smoothly, but it is an amazingly lengthy process, with many stages involving updates and bluetooth reconnects and such. Still, it all worked out and it never left me wondering if I was doing the right thing or not, unlike many hardware/software installations.
  The keyboard, mouse and pad have all worked pretty well for me, and the media pad shows great promise as a home theater controller, but I have a couple of quibbles:
  1) the mouse charging station is a piece of junk relative to the rest of the system - it's tippy, you have to fiddle to feel that the mouse is making contact, and the power cable easily falls out
  2) the keyboard, on waking up, often repeats (many times) one of the characters you type in
  3) I _suspect_ the software of periodically bogging my PC down, though I don't know that for sure yet
  4) I can assign the keyboard media button to bring up iTunes (and other applications), but the media pad media buttong is not given the same choices for some reason.
  Overall I'm very impressed with this, but I AM COUNTING ON LOGITECH to improve the software such that it sees its full potential.
  
  

• Keyboard and mouse are good. Not the media controller

  
  By A2JRDFIGWTX50J on 2006-04-21
  Let me start with the positives:
  
  1. Keyboard looks and feels great. Its very slim and has an aesthetic look. But I am wondering if the keyboard is safe. Reason, I could get it working up to 25 feet from the computer. I live in an apartment and there are many houses nearby. I am wondering if its safe to use this keyboard as my neighbour may receive the signals too. That said, I am happy that the keyboard is working up to that range without any interference.
  
  2. Mouse is excellent. It has all the features of modern mouse, like tilt wheel for example. The tracking is very sharp and works even on rough and uneven surfaces.
  
  3. Battery life is too good. I have used my mouse for 5 days and it did not show any signs of low power. It still shows full charge.
  
  Now the negatives:
  
  1. Its definitely not worth the money you pay for it. You can get wireless keyboard and mouse for much less without the bluetooth technology. The infrared ones work only for a small range but its actually good because your neighbours won't catch your keyboard signals due to the short range.
  
  2. As someone already pointed out in another review, the mouse does not "fit" properly into its cradle. You have to baby-sit it to stop it from crying for power. That's a very bad design from a reputed company such as Logitech.
  
  3. The media controller controls your patience and not the system. It gives so many problems that I lost patience to debug it. I am using only the keyboard and mouse and really feel let down. The media controller works OK with ITunes but when it comes to WinAmp, Windows Media Player, Cyberlink PowerDVD and Nero Showtime, it really is of no use. Only a few controls work and the others don't. The IM alert feature was very interesting to read on the manual. But when I tried it, it was far less interesting. It gives me the alerts on its miniscule screen. But does not alert with sound. So does it expect me to constantly glare at its small screen? No way. So finally the media controller is nothing more than a meagre calculator for me.
  
  Summary: I would not recommend this product. Please pay lesser money and buy a good infrared keyboard/mouse if you wish to go wireless.
  
  

• Such high hopes, such meager rewards

  
  By AZL9VFK2KPX6S on 2006-03-05
  I have been coveting this sleek keyboard set ever since the first diNovo came out a couple of years ago. I have also been a user of the USB version of the MX1000 mouse since they came out last year, and I have nothing but praise for that product. The convergence of these product lines seemed like a match made in heaven.
  
  But it isn't. For the most part, the problem is Bluetooth. As implemented here, it's a fussy, unreliable, complicated fiasco. Devices (usually the keyboards) randomly stop talking to each other and won't reconnect without a reboot. Once the system was so broken that Logitech's technical support could only suggest that I completely remove the Bluetooth protocol stack and all the additional software and start again from scratch. This did solve the problem, but it was a two-hour ordeal of reconfiguration. I'm sure glad I kept my old mouse and keyboard around!
  
  I have also been using a (Logitech) cell phone style Bluetooth headset in conjunction with this adapter. It works, but just barely. Same problems as the diNovo devices: inconsistent behavior, frequent disconnects for no apparent reason, frequent power cycling and reboots required to set things right.
  
  I notice also with the headset that the Bluetooth range is quite limited. On good days I can go to the adjacent room, but I'm certainly not getting 30 feet of range. And this is true even for listening, which I would imagine is more dependent on the USB adapter than the headset.
  
  Mouse problems are what make this set truly unusable for me. The response is usually OK, but it occasionally becomes noticeably sluggish. Even worse, there seems to be some sort of predictive motion estimation built into the driver software that attempts to cover for gaps in the Bluetooth datastream. But it doesn't work very well -- for the most part, it just feels like the mouse is moving through molasses. Sometimes, the mouse pointer wanders around on its own for up to five seconds without the mouse being touched. (I've been very happy with the responsiveness of the USB version of this mouse.)
  
  The beautiful keyboard is, sadly, undistinguished in actual use. It's sturdy and feels high-quality, but I find that I prefer the feel of my old el cheapo wired IBM keyboard. This may just be personal preference, but this svelte flat keyboard feels, well, too flat. There are legs on the back of the keyboard you can extend, and that helps, but unfortunately the MediaPad lacks them.
  
  Lastly, the MediaPad. Reviewers loved it; not me. In fact, after trying it out for a while I'm totally unclear on the concept. Why would I want my numeric keypad moved off to the side where it's harder to get to and every bump makes it slip and slide around on its own? Why would I want extra copies of the media buttons on the main keyboard that can't be configured on their own? The time and date display is useful, but the driver software prefers to show you what's playing in your media player, and there doesn't seem to be any way to turn this off or switch back to the default display.
  
  

• Needs fine tuning and quality control standards implemented in design!

  
  By A2ALGCGSSYIE1F on 2006-05-08
  I got this set-up in December 05' and have used it extensively since then, I will elaborate slighty on my experiences with the hardware and software.
  
  Cons:
  
  1. The install is not at all user friendly and it takes forever and a day. I myself by trade work in the IT industry and am quite familiar with install procedures and concepts. This being a how should we say "pain in the arse" to install the 1st time successfully. Now mind you each platform will be a bit different and I for one can vouch for some of you who have immediate success, I feel this all depends on the current computers set-up and other applications involved. However, my own personal experience led me to having to sit here for 6 or so hours and configuring a series of other settings and finally just uninstalling the Set-point software to get this "Jazz" to operate appropriately...however this is not recommended.
  
  2. The keyboard won't respond sometimes when in standby mode...it sometimes takes several seconds for it to come alive...I don't mean 1.5 seconds more like 7-10 seconds...which when it comes to computers we don't like to wait even a milli-second for a response.
  
  3. The keyboard will type all on its own and sometimes will start deleting and pasting information (pasting information is rare) but the trailing (ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss) of text is very frequent...frequent enough to want to throw a fit!
  
  4. The keyboard has a seperate numbers function that acts as a media remote and is just too difficult to get used to. For those of you who use the side/bottom numbers on a typical American QWERTY keyboard will hate this new numbers move. However, if you want to really learn how to type with those numbers at the top of the keyboard this keyboard will force that on you. I have only used the media remote 3 times just to get used to it and I have now just stopped all together. It's bulky and frankly a waste of a good idea. Put the numbers back where they go I say...and leave the remote a little less bulky!
  
  5. Holding the keyboard from the corners is difficult due to buttons and features that are where you naturally grab the keyboard to slide it or pick it up.
  
  6. The mouse trails often and sometimes is too sensitive (even if adjusting the sensitivity)...it will not work on all surfaces as described on many sites and is very large for smaller hands...I have large hands so it lends nicely to me, however the buttons on the thumb side could be adjusted and designed ergonmically instead of just for functions sake.
  
  7. The mouse batteries don't last long as they say so watch out for that...it charges quickly though. But the downside is when your mouse is dead you can't work...I had to install a back-up USB mouse for these frequent mishaps...again mind you I am a developer so this is my usage take on the mouse. I need batteries that never go out then I might (a big might) be satisfied ;-)
  
  Now for the pros:
  
  1. The keyboard is smooth typing and is relatively simple to keep clean; meaning not much gets inside of the buttons. The typing is so smooth it just feels right...think of the best laptop you've ever typed on and then some!
  
  2. It's Blue Tooth so the wireless is good I have never had connection issues as of yet with either the mouse or keyboard.
  
  3. The keyboard has tons of functions from email to media playback, it's thin, responsive when it's connected and is smooth as mentioned before.
  
  4. The mouse has incredible accuracy too much for beginners but it will teach you what I learned on a track ball mouse back in the day. Accuracy teaches you mouse movement you never thought would actually come to existance but always felt comfortable trying on the old mice. What you feel like you can do, you pretty much can.
  
  5. With forward and back buttons, scrolling side to side, and up and down (ooo la la) the features of the mouse are nifty too when you actually need them.
  
  6. The mouse has a "My Documents" button as well but can lead itself to be a nuisance cause of it and the forward/back features placement. This is the part that needs redesigned for comfort.
  
  7. Pretty much this set-up is the best out there, you won't find one better as of yet. The idea and concept of this set-up is excellent...it needs the obvious improvements and someone like myself needs to sit in on one of Logitech's Focus Groups to deliver real thorough usage quarks and ideas. But all in all if you want wireless, laser, smoothness, and lotzo features then by all means buy it, love it, and enjoy the "sheet" out of it!
  
  My Review is based solely on personal "unbiased/biased" but real usage information. Also I am a developer with hundreds of applications installed and many running at the same time. I have tried to set-forth the items here to illuminate what you will most likely encounter after extensive use. Not any too set-ups are alike hence no two experiences will be alike. But keep in mind you will probably encounter at least one if not all of these issues.
  
  Hope this helps deliver some of the finer points you were looking for!
  
  Another thing...if you're one those folks who leaves nothing but complaint on these reviews - you really don't help anyone make a buying decision K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid)
  
  

• Hardware = great; software = horrible

  
  By A2N0MMJ1UPYROW on 2005-10-20
  I bought this about a week ago and still haven't decided if I'm keeping it (it's really great, when it works properly). So far I haven't been able to go for one day without having to plug in another keyboard / mouse for when I can't reconnect the diNovo.
  
  Let me recount the fun I've had with this:
  
  I took it out of the package and was pleasantly surprised with how it looked and how it was packed; all scratchable surfaces were nicely protected with pronottective plastic backing. I plugged in the hub and used the keyboard with a wired mouse while the included mouse was charging (took about 4 hours). It worked fine without any drivers (except the media pad obviously didn't do anything fancy).
  
  Then the mouse finished charging. It too worked without the drivers. Then I installed the drivers, and the fun began.
  
  During the install I was prompted to update (and an insert in the package said it was very important to do so). After rebooting, I was greeted with a crash while the software finished setting up the hardware; this left the keyboard and mouse unusable; I used another kb/mouse to uninstall the drivers and tried again. To make a very long story short, I started at 10 PM and finished at 6 AM, installed a half dozen times on two different computers, and finally got it working. During the post-install (after rebooting) a firmware upgrade is applied (this is what kept crashing); I suspect it stupidly hard-codes c:\program files\ because on another installation on the same machine (which also happened to use d:\program files) it kept crashing, but on another machine with c:\program files the firmware upgrade was successful (and then it didn't need to do it again, so it worked on the original machine).
  
  Often all three pieces (kb/mouse/mediapad) lose their setpoint detection and stop doing their special functions (e.g. F-lock/media keys, cruise control and tilt scrolling, and the media display stops updating). I can reconnect the devices and then they work properly again. Sometimes they don't reconnect and then I can't do anything because I lack a keyboard or mouse (and often when trying to reconnect, setpoint causes winamp and explorer to hang). I have found that restarting setpoint also redetects the devices sometimes.
  
  Long story short, the software is a mess, be wary.
  
  
• Software/drivers fail quickly
  By A8YRBTXB09LEQ on 2005-10-29
  When I first got this product, everything worked well. The installation process was a bit lengthy, involving two reboots, but was still relatively painless. The device works from at least ten feet away from the computer, which is why I got it in the first place.
  
  Then the problems started happening.
  1) If you want to use the media functionality, you really can only use their 'medialife' application. If you try to have both medialife and then another dvd application ([...]), the other dvd applications won't work. So, Medialife has to be uninstalled, and then another application can take it's place.
  2) I then set the application to be just to open an explorer window to my media directory, which I could then use to open specific files for playing. The software just would not store that information; I reset the 'media' button to be 'open an explorer window at this location' two or three times, and it just didn't work.
  3) The mouse and keyboard would be very slow after a few minutes. The pattern was: 1 minute good functioning, 10 seconds of being v_e_r_y slow, and then 1 minute of good functioning, repeat. Apparently, the 2.46 update is supposed to fix that; moreover, the 2.46 update is supposed to be installed when drivers are installed, and that didn't happen.
  So, I uninstalled the setpoint software, just to use the bluetooth drivers. However, after two or three weeks, the keyboard/mouse/keypad simply don't respond. The bluetooth drivers apparently 'rotted' from one reboot to the next. I attempted to reinstall setpoint, because apparently that's necessary to run the software, and that just doesn't work-- now, when I reinstall setpoint, the keyboard/mouse/keypad aren't detected. If I force a reinstallation of the WIDCOMM drivers, I get a 'drivers not licensed for device' error (ie, if instead of doing the default driver installation from the installation CD but instead do a direct installation from the CD drivers directory). So setpoint installation does not work because it can't detect the keyboard/mouse/keypad, and component installation doesn't work either.
  
  Logitech help support has been worse than useless. I got a message from someone who thought I had a different dinovo keyboard to install setpoint 2.22. That didn't work, mainly because those drivers work with bluetooth 1.2 (and this is bluetooth 2.0) and because that's an older piece of software that didn't play nice with the newer stuff on the driver CD. When I complained that the given tech solution wasn't useful, I have gotten no response.
  
  So while the keyboard is pretty and when it works, it's mediocre, but more often than not, it just doesn't work, the software is terrible, and the tech support is worse.
  
  
• Constant problems
  By A24ZD0X6F9TGUQ on 2007-05-17
  I owned the diNovo for about 3 weeks now, and like most of you, I liked the slick look and feel of the keyboard/mouse. Since then, it has been a nightmare for me. I am computer savy and pretty much know how to install all HW/SW. It's not the product doesn't work, but it doesn't work reliably, and if you have your password enabled on your Windows XP, then when the product doesn't respond, you can't sign-in or do anything. Only way around is to plug a regular keyboard/mouse and rescan the bluetooth.
  Examples of issues:
  
  1) Inital driver load and keyboard/mouse installation (works fine)
  
  2) Do windows update from Microsoft from time to time, keyboard/mouse hang and need to re-establish link with bluetooth network. This requires a standard keyboard/mouse to reconfigure since diNovo was hanged.
  
  3) Install other USB devices (i.e. memory card reader) and reboot, the keyboard/mouse hang again, and need to re-establish link with bluetooth network (this requires standard keyboard/mouse again to do this).
  
  There were many more cases where I experienced hang problems that I am now afraid to add any SW/HW.
  
  Now, I believe the problem was due to "bluetooth" technology itself, thus, not restricted to Logitech. Too much details to write it all down here, but in general, to fix my problem, I usually needed to refresh the Bluetooth network hub (much like you refresh your ethernet IP address) before I can retrain the link with Keyboard/mouse/pad.
  
  Bottom line is if you don't want to spend time reconfiguring your keyboard/mouse/pad each time you install new HW/SW, I highly recommend you stay away from diNovo and maybe all other Bluetooth Human Interface devices until they solve the stability problem, and that assumes you are computer literate. I knew about these problems before I bought it, but because I love the feel/look of the product, I bought it anyway taking a chance....well, it's not worth it if you can't use it. Don't do it! I know you feel the urge to click on "add to cart", but don't do it!!
  
  
  
  
• Excellent keyboard, but...
  By A1K86LKPUZ24T5 on 2007-02-21
  I am a mediocre typist so good typists and poor (meaning worse than mediocre) should read this review with caution. First of all, I really, really, like the touch and feel of this keyboard. Second, it is quiet. You can type and talk on the phone and the person you are talking to doesn't say, "Quit playing around on your computer and pay attention!"
  
  Next, I didn't buy it for the media control, so I have no idea how that works. There are also some internet navigation buttons and some other function buttons that I haven't used, but may, some day. I really bought the keyboard for typing.
  
  The detachable numeric keypad is neat, but the keypad itself is so ho-hum you wonder at the point of it. I mean, it's neat pushing a button and having a calculator, but I can click the mouse and have a calculator--and a much better calculator--tape, more functions, paste, etc.--like, really!
  
  Speaking of the mouse, I like the mouse--not as much as I like the keyboard--but I like it. The thumb-activated forward and back button is mounted in the middle and I have a long thumb, so the back button is awkward. There are some functions about this mouse that I don't understand, particularly why it scrolls like lightning sometimes and like Death Valley other times. I'm as satisfied with it as the Microsoft mouse it replaced.
  
  The keyboard used to mysteriously drop characters. That is, I would type, "The quick brown fox" and get "he uik brnx". This gave me a sense of accomplishment as it was the first time ever I out-typed a keyboard buffer, but it was a frustrating experience all the same. Fortunately, it only seems to happen now when there is some very heavy background activity, i.e., Google indexing the desktop while the anti-virus runs while Word repaginates, while... so, it is not often. Why it did it a lot and now it doesn't, I don't know.
  
  Would I buy it again? Well, no. I love the keyboard and now that I've got it, I'm not giving it back. But, the numeric keypad is really bland. The mouse is okay, but I'm used to Logitech mice and trackballs that are more than okay. Microsoft makes an okay mouse that is a lot cheaper than this one.
  
  I tried all the keyboards I could find for feel and sound and this one was love at first touch. After checking on-line, I went back and asked the store manager if he could cut me a little slack on the price, showing him a print of Amazon's deal and he showed me the way to the door, very nicely, but no deal.
  
  I used to have a Northgate keyboard (no longer made) but imitated by someone (you can do a web search) that I should never have let go. All I have are memories of how much I loved that keyboard and I think I am going to feel the same way about this one. The imitation Northgate costs about the same (or so I'm told) and if I had thought about it, in time, I might not be writing this review since my objection to the imitation Northgate was price. This is a lot of money to pay for a keyboard. Maybe if you use the media funtions and can get the keypad to do something and have a different shaped hand for the mouse...
  
  
• Almost Perfect
  By A141IUB4JJPDB1 on 2006-08-26
  I loved this set the first two months I had it. It's so much easier to type on the laptop style keyboards, and the media pad was unexpectedly versatile. The mouse fits your hand perfectly, and the battery lasts forever. However....
  
  Beware....
  
  of...
  
  the...
  
  RECEIVER!!!
  
  (and logitech customer support)
  
  While on vacation, the receiver for my DiNovo went missing from my office. I thought "No big deal, I'll just call and get a replacement. All it is is a $15 piece of plastic." How wrong I was.
  
  After being transferred from dept to dept and explaining what happened about 6 times, I was hung up on. Then I did it again, this time for only about an hour, until they finally tell me that there is absolutely, positively, no way in hell that I'll ever be able to get a replacement for the receiver, no matter what I pay. My only option was to buy an out of warranty system (the whole thing!) for $85. I carefully explained to the phone that this was ridiculous, and I wanted my money back. So the phone gave me an address to send my now useless DiNovo to, and thanked me for my patronage. I sent it in 3 weeks ago, and haven't heard a thing yet. Needless to say, I'm more than a little put off, especially considering how expensive the DiNovo is.
  
  I would recommend that you not buy this, or any, product from Logitech. Ever. Unless you want to be miserable. And stupid.
  
  ADDITION: Just got the MS Laser Mouse and Comfort Keyboard 6000 set. I highly recommend this one over the DiNovo; not only is it half the price and twice as comfortable, it looks really neat, too!
  
  
• Wait for major software revision before buying
  By A1B1JLMWGX3VUQ on 2007-05-10
  I've decided this is the last Logitech item I'll be buying. The original software supplied with the unit is barely adequate, and has conflicts with a previous Logitech software product that YOU CANNOT REMOVE once it's in place--the most recent update appears to have changed nothing. If you have used an older Logitech wireless unit on your computer, keep this in mind--the software MAY cause conflicts, and MAY not be removable if it does.
  
  The unit often goes to sleep for some reason, leaving the mouse "dead" for upwards of a minute--sometimes, the keyboard does the same, which is very annoying if you can type without looking at the screen. Last month, when I was out of town for a week, it took two hours to get my system to re-recognize all three of the desktop units (keyboard, keypad, and mouse).
  
  So, with all these problems, I assumed Logitech would help, and that's where I made the decision to purchase no more of their products. EVERY ISSUE I've had is mirrored by others on their on-line help, and in every case, their response is either (1) no response, or (2) "we know, and we're stumped. Thanks for contacting us."
  
  I'd highly recommend you do a Google search and read the on-line comments from Logitech owners on their website before purchasing. You might get lucky and have no problems, but caveat emptor--there are a lot more people out there like me who would say 1 star is generous.
  
  
• Works like a charm - only after coming up from idle
  By A79Z4MG4E28N0 on 2006-03-13
  The convenience of wireless is awesome. This product fills that need exceptionally well. The biggest complaint is that after sitting idle for more then 15 min the Bluetooth wireless connection goes into a low power mode to conserve the battery power (disposable batteries in the keyboard and media pad). When you begin typing the Bluetooth connection takes a half second re-connect. When it does, almost always repeats the first key touched. I am constantly deleting "extra" characters both the media pad and the keyboard create after going into idle mode. FFFFrustrating!
  
  
• Have to be honest...
  By A2D037G548WOJQ on 2006-04-17
  First of all I love the look and feel of this keyboard, by far the best I have owned and as my coworkers will tell you I have this keyboard thing. I just like trying them out.
  
  I also own the non-bluetooth version of the DiNovo desktop and I bought the first version of the bluetooth set without the laser mouse so I have some experience with these sets.
  
  Even though the new version with the laser is a LOT better than the old version it is still a [...] shoot on getting a set that was well manufactured. I am on my second laser desktop and the keyboard is still warped, check that out as soon as you purchase. The mice as well, they are not up to the inspection specs as the stand alone MX-1000's, some have loose back and forward buttons.
  
  The software installation is so much better than the older versions and will not mess with your on board bluetooth. As one person stated earlier his mouse was sluggish and if you don't use the bluetooth adaptor that came with the set you will have this issue. Turn off your on-board bluetooth when you install the software and then re-enable after the reboot.
  
  The media pad surprisingly is the best made and functional piece in the set.
  
  That said though unless you really want the extra features of the media pad AND bluetooth I would recommend the non-bluetooth version of the DiNovo set. Unfortunately, you will have to buy the MX-1000 separately and not use the crappy mouse that comes with it. But if you have enough money to get this keyboard then you probably have enough to get the cheaper set and a good mouse.
  
  
• Worth It
  By A1THUD5TOTIX1Y on 2006-06-29
  I have had this for about a month now, and was a little hesitant to buy it after reading all of the available reviews. People either seemed to love it or hate it. I thought I needed the extra range the Bluetooth would offer over other wireless combos. I needed 8 or 10 feet, because my display is a plasma TV. I use it at home only, and I have not tried any gaming. The mouse overall works well, but drifts some, depending on the surface you are using it on. Battery life has been good. I used the Bluetooth hub provided to HotSync my Palm Tungsten E2 and that worked like a charm.
  
  
  
• Excellent Product
  By AOEETPACQ0N3Q on 2006-07-27
  Excellent product all around, but a bit pricey. I bought because radio-controlled units do not work well in my enviornment. Bluetooth works great.
  
  
• Great product, but mediocre driver support
  By A2U7KECAIO10R2 on 2006-09-30
  I love my new keyboard and mouse. They are stylish, feel comfortable, and (for the most part) function perfectly. A few words of warning though:
  
  Be very careful where you plug in the bluetooth dongle. The best bet is to get a usb extension and have the dongle on your desk, preferrably near the keyboard and mouse (or line of sight to them). At the least put the dongle on a front usb connector. Logitech really ought to provide an small docking station or something for the dongle, as most people assume it is perfectly fine to plug it into a back usb slot (and to some it is), but this will generally cause a lot of interferance, resulting in the problems others have mentioned: mouse lagging (ie you move the mouse, the cursor responds but at an incredibly slow rate), keyboard missing keys, or sending them repeatedly (hhhhhhhhhhllo for hello or something), etc.
  
  Secondly, and this is something I found out through trial and error, DO NOT HAVE ACTIVESYNC RUNNING WHEN INSTALLING SETPOINT. There is a conflict between activesync and setpoint 2.6, which, at least for me, resulted in the corruption of some of the bluetooth drivers, and the bluetooth software being unable to detect the mouse/keyboard at startup unless I reset all the connections.
  
  Now that I've finally got everything working correctly, I'm liking the product. Unfortunately, the fact that it took this much effort to get it working doesn't speak well on the part of the software support.
  
  
• If you likeeeeee to tyyyyype like thissssss.
  By AY42C1GKWW9NO on 2006-11-09
  I give this product a 3 because it is really nice and I like that it is bluetooth, it's nice with a bluetooth enabled laptop.
  
  I also give it only a 3 because this product tends to type multiple keystrokes with one push of a key. For example you type "Help me" and end up with "Help mmmmmmme". On a typical 8 hour day I expect this keyboard and/or keypad to do multiple keystrokes from 6-12 times (sometimes more often). Also the keyboard and keypad can go out of sync, you type a number on the keypad then hit a letter on the keyboard, it may type the letter then the number.
  
  If you can live with the above two problems then this keyboard is for you. If not then keep looking.
  
  
• Love it / Hate it
  By A1VK3POF9ND2G2 on 2007-08-28
  Okay, let me state once I got everything working I really like this system. Installation was a serious pain in the butt. I have windows XP pro and had to run the installation 3 times before it was complete. I was also dissapointed that the keyboard requires batteries, although I never really had an indication it didn't. I bought this system to reduce the wires on my desk and to reduce battery useage. Neither thing happened. The keyboard takes 4 batteries (included) and you have a bluetooth charging station that requires it to be plugged in. Another wire and plug. I do love the ultra thin keyboard, and the mouse is pretty sweet... silky smooth.
  
  
• Great piece of art with some minor flaws
  By A1CJ1657PVLTJG on 2005-12-20
  These 5 stars are really 4.8 stars. I was looking forward to having this keyboard under my hands. Almost every review that I had read described the soft feedback of the keyboard and the responsiveness of the mouse... THAT's TRUE!!! I could only find minor issues.
  
  
  Pros:
  - This is the most stylish keyboard that you can find all around.
  
  - The keys feel just like those on a laptop keyboard and they are full sized.
  
  - The keyboard profile is really thin.
  
  - NO DELAY at 100 wpm. I was very dissapointed with the annoying delay of some logitech RF keyboards. This can be a pain in the neck for serious typists. At this speed, logitech RF keyboards feel like enqueuing the keystrokes and you end up receiving the last characters of every sentence delayed by something like 1/4 sec. That's ANNOYING! With the iNovo, you won't experience any perceivable delay, unless you can write at 250wpm. I was expecting it to suffer from a longer delay because of the additional processing needed for Bluetooth communication, but I was nicely surprised of not finding any delay.
  
  - The installation was straightforward, I did not experience any problems.
  
  - The mouse is fast and accurate, though I prefer the smooth movement of my microsoft standard mouse.
  
  
  Cons:
  
  - The layout of the media pad is a little unnatural, considering that the down arrow has been placed on the num-5 and that the num-0 has been subdivided into two separate keys: num-0 and num-000.
  
  - Personally, I would like that the media pad could be attached in some way to the central keyboard. Anyway, this is only a would-be-nice. It does not really bother me.
  
  
  If you're looking for a stylish, soft, responsive, well designed, light, eye-catching, different-to-the-rest and brilliant keyboard, the iNovo is the way to go. You don't have to think twice. If you like the soft touch of laptop keyboard but also like the advantages of full-size keyboards: Logitech iNovo. Don't look anywhere else!
  
  
  
• Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser
  By A2DKRVHWJV5TEZ on 2006-07-17
  It is great, easy setup and communication with the bluetooth...The only issue is that sometimes it adds an extra number or doesn't quite catch the space bar when pressed, especially if you type fast! The media center works great as a remote for listening to music or watching videos. I recommend this product, a must have.
  
  
• Excellent looks, not so good underneath
  By A3P32TL65NB02O on 2006-10-09
  This is an awesome looking keyboard/mouse package but has its problems. Logitech has done a poor job of getting the software right.
  
  One of the problems is that often when the keyboard has been idle for a time and you then press a key you get a double keystroke. This seems like nothing to speak of but often results in an incorrect password or web address if you are not careful.
  
  Another problem, the mouse will sometimes lose directional control. You can use the scroll wheel but moving the mouse up or down/ left or right gives no movement on screen. You can either reboot the PC or press the Connect button to reestablish a proper connection. There seems no particular reason for the loss of connection.
  
  The final problem is with the mouse battery. The battery is rechargeable but you must recharge extremely often. I would recommend redocking the mouse every other day or you will have problems. This seems like no big deal but if you are not use to docking a mouse forgetfulness kicks in quickly.
  
  Logitech support is absolutely no help what so ever. When these problems are presented to them they only suggest moving the Bluetooth receiver to the front of your PC. Otherwise, the problems are categorized as "environmental" which seems the Logitech secret code for "we did little or no QA testing so you the customer must suffer".
  
  
  
• Worked Great Until It Stopped Working, But Logitech is Replacing
  By A3RRSQO1ZLZDT2 on 2006-11-20
  I bought this keyboard about three months ago. (By the way, never ever shop at CompUSA - I bought the diNovo there for above list price. Amazon says the list price is $179.99, but CompUSA is currently selling it for $199, while you can get it on Amazon with rebate for $128, or $148 without rebate).
  
  One of the primary reasons I wanted the diNovo was because of neck and arm pain caused by mousing. I hired a professional ergonomist and she told me one problem with traditional keyboards with number keys to the right of the letter keys is that the keyboard is too wide and that when you have your mouse to the right of the keyboard, it is an unnatural position that causes repetitive strain. She advised me to get a keyboard without number keys so I could move the mouse in closer. The diNovo was the only wireless keyboard I could find without side number keys (which I don't use anyway).
  
  Anyway, while a number of people complain below that they had problems installing the diNovo, I set it up in two minutes without incident, plug and play. (I didn't bother to install the software). I never set up the media pad, since I had to intention of using it. I quickly jettisoned the mouse - it was too big and awkward for my female hand. I had an old Logitech wireless mouse that I liked better, so I used the old mouse with wireless receiver and the diNovo keyboard with bluetooth.
  
  I used the keyboard without event for three months and loved it. Had no problems whatsoever (unlike some people below who have complained of glitches such as keyboard lag time). I loved how silent the keys are and how compact the keyboard is. I do feel less repetitive strain being able to have the mouse at a closer angle than with a traditional keyboard, which makes you reach really far to the right side to use the mouse.
  
  All was well, until the keyboard just stopped working a couple of days ago. I called Logitech customer support and we spent 45 minutes on the phone trying to get it to work. Finally, they gave up and said they would send me a new one. I am not sure, but I suspect the problem may have been that I was drinking water with a leaky cup while sitting at the keyboard and the water may have dripped onto the keyboard, causing the keyboard to fail.
  
  Anyway, but for the fact that the keyboard stopped working (which may be my fault, since I guess you are not supposed to drip water on your keyboard), I would have given this a "5."
  
  If, like me, you have experienced repetitive strain injury from mousing, you might want to give this keyboard a try. It is the most ergonomic wireless keyboard that I have found so far.
  
  
• Nice idea, horrible execution.
  By A2DF62DP20RIXF on 2006-12-15
  I got this from a local Staples store for [Amazon censored this information] They had a keyboard open for display, and I was amazed at how good it looked. It was sleek, looked awsome, and felt like a laptop keyboard, which has always been easier for me to use.
  
  I got it home plugged it in, and began the setup. I like the mouse...it is designed to be very comfortable, with great features. The tracking of it is lovely...I really enjoyed it. The charger was another story...poorly constructed and difficult to use. I think the idea was to put the mouse in and just let it fall into place, but the charger is very flimsy, and makes you feel like you need to babysit it to make sure it works. And the promised features looked great. It would have been wonderful if I could have actually used them. I never made it beyond the Set Point software installation. The included bloatware took near forever to install. I got several messages from XP telling me that the software was not tested to be compatible with XP, even though the box said that it was, and XP is a main requirement. I have a genuine copy, so it can't be that I have bad XP software. That type of oversight is unacceptable for a company like Logitech. My computer is a 2.8 Ghz, 1 GB RAM machine, so I don't know what took it so long.
  
  Then came the real horror...the BLUETOOTH CONFIGURATION! My machine told me that my bluetooth was being configured, and that the connection would be restored. The mouse stopped responding. I restarted, and the same window came up--and got stuck there. I never got beyond that point. Everytime I would restart my computer, I got the connection wizard, and my computer would slow down to a crawl, and nothing else would be able to open up. Even Task Manager wouldn't work!!!
  
  I ended up having to go to Safe Mode to uninstall the software(s). I was disapointed--SORELY! After paying all that much money for this keyboard, I should have been able to get top-notch performance out of it. After all, aren't I paying for it? This keyboard was disappointing on so many levels...I am really suprised at Logitech. A company of their reputation certainly has it in their power to produce a better product. Stay away from this at all cost, since it will cost you so much to use! I returned my in less than a day.
  
  
• Great product with a couple of exceptions...
  By A11FOQYGY4WNGA on 2007-01-03
  I have been using the DiNovo wireless setup in my office and it has worked flawlessly. When it came time to buy one for my home I tried their new Laser version. I love the shape of the mouse, but had problems with it receiving the bluetooth signal from the fob. After a couple of calls to Logitech they sent me a new mouse and keyboard. I noticed that the new fob is attached to a wire instead of just plugging into the back or front of the computer. I feel that my desk (metal) was interfereing with the signal. The new fob now sits ontop of my desktop and signal is not a problem. I love the look and feel of the keyboard. Another negative with the diNovo set that I use at my office is with the keyboard. After about 2 years of use the letters are weariing off of the buttons. I have never had that before with any keyboard. For this kind of money that should not happen...otherwise this is a great product!
  
  
• Garbage. $200 of pure garbage.
  By A1DB5QPH7WO488 on 2006-01-05
  Pros:
  Admittedly, this set has a very nice pinache. Complements a tasteful home media center nicely, assuming you didn't actually want to use it to, I don't know, type text or move the cursor.
  
  Cons:
  The mouse lags. Several seconds. Not several milliseconds, or several fractions of a second, but several seconds. Despite the logitech software telling me that my singal strength was "Good," I would move the mouse about on my table, and watch, bemusedly, as the cursor did a slow parody of the movement several seconds later. I tried moving the receiver, using different USB ports, reinstalling the software, exploring the Logitech support site (useless), and discovered that other users had experienced the same problem, only remedied by a replacement. So I replaced the setup, to no avail.
  
  The media pad that comes with the keyboard is a nightmare of poor design. The directional keys are all misplaced - normally the "2" button acts as down, but not on a Logitech media pad, no! Here, the "5" key is the down button. The "2" key is the windows start button. It's a real blast to try to play civilization four, only to escape to the desktop every time you want to scroll around in the menu using the keys (which, of course, you have to do, since the mouse is impossible to use).
  
  Verdict:
  Logitech should probably offer long usb or ps2 cables with their regular keyboards and mice, instead of trying to pawn off this garbage as "wireless." My kudos (and envy) to those who can make this system work. I went through two, and they weren't worth $10, let alone $200.
  
  
• Beware - junk junk junk
  By A36DB24GXGKAY2 on 2006-04-15
  nice looks but software and support (5days - 9 to 5pm and always suggesting to reinstall software x5) should get -5 not 1
  
  Requested return and swiching to MS
  
  
• An overpriced keyboard - mouse combo
  By A1B0I08D845GQJ on 2006-11-16
  So far so god, but do you have to know some things before you plunk your hard earned money on this...
  
  1.- The keyboard is like a laptop keyboard (the feeling, the keys and such), what I dislike from this particular keyboard is the "Enter" key which it's shape is small (rectangular, I rather like the near square ones).
  2.- The software is bloatware, you are better off this one. You may miss some functionality, like media pad displaying it's stuff and the like.
  3.- There is no doubt about the quality components you get, but again the price is too much for this particular combo.
  
  
• Not perfect, but the best I have used
  By A3G2BXUALO94XA on 2006-12-12
  This is not a perfect product, but it generally works as advertised so I'm giving it 5 stars for effort. The installation takes clicking through a lot of dialogs if you are using the Bluetooth dongle. If your computer or laptop already has a Bluetooth radio, it's much shorter. Make sure you update to the latest version of the SetPoint software from Logitech's site -- sometimes the version on the CD is outdated. I use SetPoint 2.60 right now, and there is a new beta in the works.
  
  I don't use the media controller much, so I can't comment on it, but the mouse and keyboard seem solid. I've never had a problem with the mouse, and I have only occasionally experienced repeating keys, where the keyboard seems to get stuck sending the same character, like you are laying on the button when it's not being pressed. But this has happened a small handful of times and hopefully a future SetPoint software update will fix it. But even without a fix, it hasn't happened often enough to affect my review.
  
  I'm also impressed that the mouse/keyboard paired with my Mac and PC. Obviously the SetPoint software is PC-only, so on the Mac side there isn't much configuration available, but I had no trouble pairing the devices and using the desktop as a basic mouse and keyboard for my MacBook Pro.
  
  It also paired nicely with a Windows PC that had a built-in Bluetooth radio (i.e., sans included Bluetooth dongle).
  
  I like the feel of the mouse and the keyboard, which has a nice laptop-like short travel that is much quieter and less clunky than other keyboards I have used.
  
  My biggest gripe is the charger, which is finicky. It takes some wiggling to make the mouse actually contact properly and start chanrging. Fortunately I only have to do this once a week, and the keyboard has been on the same batteries for a year.
  
  So don't expect perfection, but this product is as good as Bluetooth desktops get these days, especially nice looking onces.
  
  
• Should never have gone to market
  By A2JCESDJWF6895 on 2007-01-03
  This combo seemed awesome at first. The styling is beautiful, separate numeric keypad with an LCD display, high-resolution mouse, Bluetooth for long range reception, long battery life, etc. So I bought it.
  
  I installed the supplied Setpoint software and when the system rebooted and the Connection Wizard started up, I ended up with no keyboard or mouse response, so I couldn't do anything. The blue "Connected" light was dark and I couldn't log in to XP or reboot normally. So I power-cycled, booted to safe-mode, uninstalled all the Logitech software, and the keyboard and mouse worked again.
  
  I retried this several times, using either XP's built-in Bluetooth support or Logitech's recommended replacement software. Neither allowed me to get Setpoint working. However, the hardware worked without it, so I expected I'd just not be able to encrypt the connections or use the LCD display. I Googled for Setpoint and found many others had come to the same conclusion: don't install it.
  
  Then I tried using the mouse. This is when I decided this product should have never made it to market. Intermittently, the mouse develops lag so severe that when I move it around my desk and let go, I see the cursor reproduce my movements 1 to 5 seconds later. Sometimes it has the response of a wired mouse, and sometimes it has lag that renders it useless as a pointing device.
  
  Then I started up GuildWars, an online role-playing game, and the lag became constant, making it impossible to play at all. You can't imagine how frustrating it is to move the mouse to a position and stop, then watch the cursor continue on it's own. So you have to move a tiny bit, wait a few seconds for it to stop, then make corrections until it gets to where you want it.
  
  I am on this keyboard right now and as I was typing, the mouse stopped responding for about a minute, then came back. Arghhhh!.
  
  So I'm sending the DiNovo back and won't be buying another Logitech product for a very long time. If I had their stock, I'd be dumping it right now.
  
  By the way, I was on the phone with them and my experience with their support was worse than with the product. The "tech" seemed new and entirely untrained. His proposed solution was to run scandisk on my 600 GB RAID array, which would have taken hours. He suggested that XP was lying to me about having 452 GB free and I was probably out of disk space. That was when I decided not to buy from Logitech again.
  
  My advice is to avoid this product like the plague and read the reviews before buying another Bluetooth wireless solution.
  
  
• Quality Product
  By A3RJPOTJMJQKKB on 2007-01-14
  The keyboard is really nice. I love the low-profile keys and the unit feels very solid. The mouse is ok, but I don't use it because it's too slow for gaming purposes compared to my Razer Diamondback. The mouse is a whole-hand mouse that feels nice for normal, non-gaming use, but personally it just doesn't do it for me while playing games. The mediapad is sweet. I use it as a calculator and a media remote if I want to listen to music on my comp while in the kitchen etc.
  
  This is a 5-star product for most people, but I gave it 4 stars for gaming since the mouse isn't useable as a gaming device IMO. However, I reccomend the package to anyone who wants a sweet keyboard that's low-profile and bluetooth (even if you don't use the mouse), anyone who wants a nice mouse for non-gaming.
  
  
• Looks and feels great...SetPoint Software is incompatible
  By A395JXU6RN939T on 2008-03-06
  I purchased this keyboard mostly for it's looks, quietness, laptop keyboard feel, and wireless capability. I use a Dell laptop with a dock, and 24" widescreen monitor and running Windows XP Professional. I also run a variety of standard and non-standard business software.
  
  Windows seems to have no trouble picking up the keyboard, keypad, and mouse and installing all standard drivers to make the basic functions work. For me, this was enough to make me happy with my purchase.
  
  However, I would not recommend the SetPoint software that enables customization and the use of many other buttons and features not standard to the Windows drivers. I installed SetPoint several times only to have it corrupt registry files, hang up and crash Outlook 2003, and Windows Media Player. I also tried the most recent version of SetPoint available for download on the Logitech website v4.40, only to find that it had the same issues.
  
  In the end, I restored the computer to its original state with only windows drivers and it is working fine but without the additional features and customization. If you are looking to buy this keyboard for the features afforded by the software, consider these issues a possiblity.
  
  In the end, I am satisfied with this keyboard for the reasons I purchased it. I gave it 3 stars because of the hassle and hours spent installing and uninstalling and restoring my computer only to discover that the accompanying software was incompatible. Had I known in the first place, I would have just used it without the software.
  
  
  

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