Garmin MapSource City Navigator, North America DVD-ROM for Garmin StreetPilot GPS Units Reviews

• City Navigator vs City Select

  
  By A1ZEC9W4KZ0Y4J on 2006-04-15
  For those of you who are deciding between City Navigator and City Select, buy Navigator. Here are reasons I find over various forum and news groups when I was making my buying decision.
  
  Garmin has about 8 different levels of street classifications, all the way from pedestrian and animal pathways to multilane controlled access highways. For each roadway, there can be up to 60 invisible attributes, indicating the number of lanes, number of stop signs or traffic lights per mile, speed limits, presence of medians, time of day restrictions, heavy vehicle, pedestrian and bicycle restrictions, and so forth. Whether these 60 pieces of data are included in the software or used by the GPS for its calculations is part of the feature set of the 3 map packages offered by Garmin.
  
  The basic level (Metroguide) does not support automatic route generation. (Note: Metroguide 4.01 and below use data from TeleAtlas. So Metroguide 4.01 is the best version you can find that won't need an unlock code to use the routing function on your Garmin)
  
  The intermediate level (City Select) supports automatic route generation, but does not contain certain 'high end' road attributes such as truck restrictions, time of day restrictions, stop signs per mile, mid-road barrier awareness, and various other road attributes.
  
  The highest level (City Navigator) contains all those things, and is targeted for Garmin's higher end GPS's. This can explain the why Navigator's map data are much larger than Select. I bought the Navigator for my 60Cx and within the same order I also bought a 1GB microSD memory chip. The Navigator has about 1.6 GB map data. With 1GB microSD, I can hold the map about half of the US (from west of IL all the way to the east coast)
  
  As far as the quality of map detail, I'd say it's about the same as MS Streets & Trips 2006, which I use a lot on my PC. I haven't found any errors yet. None of them has the railroads of Chicago CTA train, which, interestingly, are in Garmin's US Topo map. All have Metra railroads though.
  
  For the actually performance and accuracy of the map, you could refer to the reviews of other Garmin's models that are dedicatedly made for in-car use and preloaded with City Navigator NT, such as StreetPilot i5, c340, and Nuvi 350, etc. Navigator NT uses the same data and only differs in compression techniques. From what I read, it seems about 80% of the people are happy with the routing result. To my experiences, by only giving start and end waypoints, I couldn't get my preferable route for most of the time. I have to specify several additional waypoints to "manipulate" how the route is calculated. (All software and online maps are like this so I have no complaint here). I am not planning to heavily rely on the turn-by-turn routing feature.
  
  This review is for version 7, BTW
  
  

• Few LARGE map segments: undocumented compatibility probs

  
  By A2E6BM07YENCY9 on 2006-01-04
  I got this software for my Legend C. I had also considered the City Select version (newest version is also V7). I could not tell what the functional difference was between the two versions. Historically, I think that the Navigator was more complete.
  
  Well, the software is fine, and it turns out that the difference between the Navigator and Select is immediately apparent, unfortunately. The navigator has 10x fewer map segments, and each segment is takes much more memory. Many segments are larger that the Legend can handle (24MB) when full routing information is included.
  
  It turns out that the City Select (v7) has exactly (as far as I can tell) the same map and route info, but it has more map segments (like the previous versions of Navigator) so that it will be useful for the smaller memory devices such as the Legend C. Even the middle-of-the-road units like the GPSMAP60C probably would be better with the City Select version.
  
  Be careful when you are deciding which version to buy. I probably need to try to return this software, if I can. I am not sure Amazon will give me a refund because I had to "unlock" the software before I could find out that it was not actually fully compatible with the Legend C.
  
  
  
  

• Garmin 60C and 60CS Owners Beware!

  
  By AWASLZ63WKIOR on 2006-08-20
  I have owned the 60CS for about 2 years for business travel purposes. Great unit. Was able to download map coverage for highway corridors I traveled on a regluar basis. Thought I'd never have to buy another handheld again. WRONG. I purchased the new City Navigator North America v.8 upgrade DVD, and quickly realized that Garmin increased the geographical area and physical size of its downloadable maps (added more data into the mapsets). So, on a 56 MB internal memory chip you cannot load maps with the same coverage area that you could using e.g. City Select NA verson 5. So discouraging. In this update Garmin could have made the maps' geographical coverage area, and thus size, smaller, but either they were too stupid or did it to get people like me to have to buy a new unit. Ended up coughing up $300 for the 60Cx and bought an extra 256 MB card.
  
  In short, if you own the 60C or 60CS, don't expect to be able to store the same number of maps with this software. Stay with what you have or be prepared to buy a new unit if you must have a number of maps covering a specific geographical area.
  
  This is great software, and Garmin knows it, but I'm giving it only one star for this reason only.
  
  

• Fully Comprehensive Travel Guide

  
  By A3I92N6EHQI3IP on 2006-12-09
  I do a lot of traveling all over the US and I am very pleased with the performance of this product. I use this with a Garmin 60CSx GPS unit with the entire contents of the DVD stored on a 2GB mini-SD card. Since purchasing I have been in at least three different geographical regions away from my home and this version 8 software seems to be very up to date and accurate. I have not encountered any missing streets or erroneous information thus far, including in and around my home area in Texas. If you were to compare this software to Microsoft Streets and Trips, you will find a much more robust and accurate mapping product. The breadth and scope of content is much more richly detailed and accurate. Performance on the PC is equally impressive. Downloading waypoints and tracks from the GPS is a snap and allows you to save multiple map sets for easy reference. Planning out specific routes and uploading to the GPS is also very easy to do.
  
  The only two things that I find to be inconvenient is the lack of compatibility on Mac OS X. It would be nice to be able to connect to my Mac since that is my primary computer; but this is not a major issue. Also, the other issue that is somewhat annoying is the timing of pop up windows on the GPS unit to alert you of your turns or exits. I am not sure if this is an issue with the GPS itself or with this software, but in any event, I have found that sometimes you don't get much notice of upcoming turns and exits. It would be nice to be able to set this to trigger at about a 1/2 mile from the waypoint instead of 2/10 mile as it is currently set. Again, not a major issue as long as you're paying close attention - otherwise you might just shoot past your turn or exit, especially if you're traveling fast.
  
  Overall, this software provides all the data and maps you need to navigate anywhere in the US, Alaska and Hawaii. It seems to be current and accurate and a necessary component to any GPS device used for traveling.
  
  

• Ridiculous "unlock" procedure - continued

  
  By A2SRDM6NN5QLN2 on 2006-07-31
  The unlock procedure for this map is ridiculous. You must be connected to the net, and you need to go through multiple pages of baloney and enter all of your personal data in detail before you can even get a chance to get the "unlock" code. The CD comes with a "coupon" code which you must enter more than once to get the chance to enter your serial number. The problem is the serial number I have doesn't work and Garmin isn't open on the weekends. I paid over $100.00 bucks for this aggravation? Unbelievable.
  
  Update - Contacted tech support today (Monday) and was told I cannot unlock the software without my GPS unit. This is ridiculous. I bought and paid for a GPS unit, the software for using it on my laptop, and now I have purchased an update (>$100.00) which I can't install on my laptop because I don't have my StreetPilot with me. None of this is explained in the upgrade instructions. I will never buy anything from Garmin ever again, and I recommend you don't either. I'd give it no stars but that isn't possible.
  
  
• Good, but missing many POIs
  By A3AHS1EU1FJ2HD on 2006-05-29
  I find that many Points of Interest (POIs) are missing. As an example if I search for a particular chain store in town I get 5 results while there are actually 11 listed in the phone book. All 11 have been around for years so it's not a problem of being too new. I find this same result over and over as I search for dining, stores and other businesses. For me this really diminishes the usefulness of the product.
  
  
• Perfect for 2gb microSD and Garmin 60CSx GPS receiver
  By A25Y1FATISZYSZ on 2006-09-30
  I bought Garmin MapSource City Navigator North America, v.8 to go with my new Garmin 60CSx GPSmap handheld receiver. I also bought a 2gb SanDisk microSD card. The entire 1.6gb North America map fits on this chip and works well with the 60 CSx handheld.
  
  This map is so detailed that it even has my neighbor's driveway.
  
  It has all of the small roads.
  
  
• Must have if you need turn-by-turn directions for Garmin Vista Cx
  By A310ITVNE6HVCT on 2006-10-24
  Make sure this software works with your GPS device. I checked several forums, websites, and read through many postings (Amazon included) to figure this out.
  
  As others have noted, the base map in Vista Cx is pretty limited. Since my goal was to get a GPS device for hiking, mountain biking, and driving directions when I travel, this was the logical upgrade for the Vista Cx. If you are seeking turn-by-turn directions for a Vista Cx, then this is a must have.
  
  Here are my likes:
  1) The directions are pretty good. I tried out several routes that I take on a daily basis and the directions followed my usual way. There are times when the software (both on the computer and on GPS) favors the shortest routes over shortest time (e.g. streets vs highways). However, you can also refine the routes by selecting intermediary points and letting the software recalculate.
  2) Extensive list of POIs. This information is very broad and covers many things (maybe a little too much, see dislikes). Most of the POIs are current. Definitely very useful when I was driving up I5 from LA to SF and needed to know food options at upcoming exits. Some of the POI data is limited, for example, I had a tough time finding one particular store because it was buried amongst other stores in a large shopping mall. I haven't researched ways to update the POIs, but Garmin provides a utility to create your own icons and POIs (xImage).
  3) Very detailed street data. Version 8 is quite current, it even has many of the new roads that have been built in the last 2 years around north Las Vegas. Don't expect it to be perfect, I definitely found roads that probably should been mapped (even in the highest detail setting they were not visible), but for its breadth, the street data is very good.
  4) On the fly recalculation of route. This may be attributed to the Vista Cx and City Navigator combined, but I was very impressed when I missed a turn and the directions were recalculated.
  5) Tech support. I called tech support because I couldn't figure out how to unlock the software (too many options for unlocking). He was very helpful and walked me through the whole process. He also stayed on the line to give me a quick tutorial for using the software. Lastly, he wasn't one of those typical CSRs that reads from a script or needed to look things up, he really knew the products and how they work.
  
  My dislikes:
  1) Too many POIs, Do I really need to see all the nail salons within 3 miles of my house? Really. The POIs is so extensive, it has businesses that you don't really care about. It would be nice if Garmin provided a feature where you could select which POI categories to download from the map into the GPS.
  2) The price. This software is very expensive, but if you consider the versatility in getting navigation and something small enough for hiking and a combined price that is less than an auto navigation unit, then this is pretty good. For comparison sake, Magellan is coming out with a new unit that can be used for both auto navigation and hiking, but its MSRP is still more than the combined price of a Vista Cx with this software.
  3) Updates to the software. This is where I think Garmin can change their approach. The upgrade price for v7 to v8 is $75. That is a lot of money and not something I wish to spend to go from v8 to v9. I'm hoping there won't be reason to, but we won't know until that time comes.
  
  Recommended upgrades:
  1) Definitely get a bigger memory chip. If you can reduce some of the POI info, this may not be as critical. However, I was only able to fit So Cal on a 64MB chip.
  2) Check Garmin website for software patches. I ran into a few issues when I installed Topo after CN. I needed some patches from Garmin to get this resolved. Not a big deal because I got a very helpful pop-up screen from Garmin about the patch just before Mapsource crashed.
  
  I've had my GPS and CN for a couple weeks now. Overall, I'm very satisfied with it. It isn't perfect, but it does many of the things I was looking for and Garmin's strong experience in mapping and navigation shows in this product.
  
  
• Incompatible with 64-bit XP
  By A1KYDQJOXM9ODG on 2006-09-06
  I wanted to install this on my main computer but was unable to detect the GPS unit. Technical support was of no help telling me to try re-install etc ... Anyways after getting frustrated I googled my problem and found that Garmin does not support 64-bit OS. Hopefully this will change with the release of Vista. Another annoying thing is unlocking the maps. Since I could not get it working on my main machine (XP 64) I switched to another (XP Pro) and unlocking the maps was a hassle. Once everything was setup it worked great!
  
  
• Horrible install process -- out-of-date Points of Interest
  By A1QOK9LU90ACF7 on 2007-01-02
  I bought City Navigator only after I learned that the MapSource software and Garmin street maps are the only maps that work with Garmin GPS units. As other reviewers have noted, the installation process is ridiculously tedious and very badly documented. You'd think that all you need to do is pop in the DVD, have autorun start the installation process, click a license agreement and you're good to go. Instead, the autorun feature didn't work (it does on my laptop for every other software CD/DVD I load, though), and the installation came to a grinding halt when the installer detected that there was a later version of MapSource available for download. Why wouldn't it just download the update for me? I have no idea. Instead, I had to visit the Garmin website, figure out what I needed (not easy on their site), and try to figure out how to abort the installation process so I could install the update. That itself was a problem because the update took a L-O-N-G time to download -- Garmin's webserver apparently has no bandwidth capacity -- and once the 40+Mb download completed, it wouldn't work. I tried executing the downloaded self-extracting archive, but it just wouldn't execute and install the update properly. At this point, I was frustrated and so I had to boot my laptop and remove the DVD which let the downloaded update to MapSource install correctly. Fine, now MapSource is fully loaded with the latest and greatest. The next obstacle is the stupid "unlock" procedure which allows the maps to be installed and used within MapSource. I had thrown away my packaging not realizing there is a "coupon" embedded in the packaging material which I need to punch in a code so I can get ANOTHER code which is the unlock code to the maps. Heaven help me! Another reviewer suggested having the GPS connected to the laptop to avoid entering the serial number of the GPS -- good advice.
  
  In the end, I *was* successful, but then, I'm a systems analyst by trade. I can't imagine someone with little experience with computers trying to install this ridiculously cumbersome mapping software.
  
  Now that I loaded the maps onto my GPS, it's really nice, which is why I'm giving the product 3 stars. The Point-of-Interest are pretty out-of-date, however. On my street, "Ruth's Cleaning Service" is listed -- a home-based business owned by a neighbor who has since closed his business and moved out-of-state three years ago. A nearby 7-Eleven which changed hands years ago is still listed as a 7-Eleven on City Navigator. A Panera Bread that opened about two years ago near my house IS listed, however. McDonald's restaurants must be searched by using the apostrophe, otherwise no search results are given (heaven help you if you don't know how to correctly punctuate or spell a firm's name!). A new McDonald's restaurant that opened near my house early in 2006 -- before the April 2006 update of the maps used by City Navigator -- is NOT listed.
  
  In sum, City Navigator is better than not having any streets loaded into your GPS, but you'll endure a difficult installation process and have to realize that the maps and points-of-interest are iffy. I'm glad I have City Navigator, but there is a LOT of room to improve the installation process and the information used to compile up-to-date points-of-interest.
  
  
• Expensive and Time Consuming
  By A2PZNMUSOK92FU on 2006-12-17
  As others have stated, Garmin GPS units suffer very limited map capabilities without the installation of this fairly expensive software. The City Navigator software should be pre-installed as the default basemap on units in the price range of the Vista Cx.
  
  Before you attempt to install the software make sure you have your GPS unit, USB connection cable, internet connection and at least an hour of free time. Garmin's included instructions leave much to be desired.
  
  My installation process was frustrating and took much longer than anticipated due to the convoluted 'Unlock' process. The process requires that your register an account with Garmin, so that you can redeem your 'Unlock Certificate' for an unlock code using Garmin's Unlock Wizard. Better have your GPS serial number, or have your GPS unit actively connected to your computer before you start the process too. The unlock process may also require you to download the latest version of the Garmin "Mapsource Software", which doesn't automatically install as expected after the download. If you experience problems installing the Mapsource software, try rebooting your computer and then search for the setup file and run it manually, as I had to do to complete the installation.
  
  After you successfully install the latest "Mapsource" software, you can go back to the "City Navigator" DVD and complete your map software installation. If this sounds like too many hoops to jump through - you're right, it is! Garmin could simplify this process enormously.
  
  Once installed, the software seems to work well and is fairly intuitive, but you need to set aside plenty of time to upload your chosen maps to your GPS unit. For instance, if you choose most of the states along the Eastern coast of the U.S. it can take over 30 minutes to upload them to a Garmin Vista Cx.
  
  On a final note, make sure to put the unlock certificate card in a safe place, because Garmin warns you during install that there is no replacement process if you lose it.
  
  
• Good Update - Larger Map Segments A Problem
  By A3EHP3GDZ65P2T on 2006-01-30
  I used this to update the software for my StreetPilot III which previously used City Navigator V.4. It has been a good update but the map segments are much larger and thus I can't load the full specific route requirements I would like without running out of memory on my 128 MB memory stick. In general, however, it serves the purpose for which I bought it and I have able to "make do" with the limitations.
  
  
• Tough installation
  By A12M8743E0BMEQ on 2006-08-21
  Garmin's map products seem to have three problems:
  
  1. They're overpriced.
  2. Their installation program consistently fails, at least on my PC.
  3. "Technical support" is available only M-F, 8-5, and they take several days to respond to email queries.
  
  It would be nice if 3rd party mapping products, such as Delorme's Topo USA, worked on Garmin's GPS units. They don't and if one wants to have maps on the GPS unit, one is stuck with Garmin's software.
  
  Three such products, including City Navigator, failed to install cleanly on my PC (running Win 2K SP 4). I hever could install to the C: drive on my machine, instead setting for an installation on f: The unsuccessful attempts at installation left behind a trail of files, folders, and registry entries that I had to clean out manually before getting that far.
  
  I would not recommend this software for someone not adept at deepest, darkest Windows. But as noted, if you have a Garmin GPS unit, you're a captive customer.
  
  
• City Navigator?? City Select?? MetroSelect????????
  By A3DVPHGB4K1FIE on 2006-08-27
  What a nightmare picking the right product. Many incompatibilties and locking procedures! What other Schemes is Garmin going to come up with next?
  
  
• Poor advertising
  By A1NHD7FI3ID8C6 on 2006-08-25
  I have a Garmin StreetPilot that was advertised to work with this software. After purchasing it, and installing it on my PC, I was unable to transfer the maps to my Garmin. I subsequently found out you need an update version, not the full version to work with the unit. This should have been well advertised by Garmin. My problem has not been completely addressed by Garmin and unfortunately I cannot return the useless, opened software.
  
  
• Works great and is very detailed
  By A8QLBXF7GXDA7 on 2006-10-17
  After you get over the disappointment that your Garmin GPS unit is useless without extra mapping software, you break down and buy City Navigator.
  City Navigator is better than and replacing city select and metro guide.
  I have a GPSMAP 60CSX with a 1 gig micro sd card. I can only fit about 3/4 of the US on my 1 gig card, so in the future I might buy the 2 gig card, but for now I'm not planning any cross country road trips. The maps are perfect and supply tons of info.
  As of 10/16/06 the latest version of City Navigator is V8.0 That is what I was shipped.
  
  
• Detailed maps, but pricey
  By A19JIXMQHRIBBR on 2007-04-12
  Purchased after realizing I needed this for street navigation with my Vista CX. The streets are up to date and accurate. I'm not sure why it costs so much. Other software is available at one third the cost, but they cannot send maps to the GPS. So I deduct one star for price gouging.
  
  The points of interests are a few years behind. I compared locally and some of the points of interests either changed names or went out of business three or more years ago. You may want to wait a couple months to see if version 9 is released if this is important. I deducted another star for this.
  
  IMPORTANT: This software needs to be unlocked to use high detail and can only be unlocked with a GPS connected to computer and computer connected to Garmin using the "unlock wizard". Choose wisely as to which GPS you connect, because the software will only allow you to register two units. You cannot download maps to GPS units not registered.
  
  
• I Love this database
  By A25CFQFA673DQV on 2007-06-27
  I have only owned Garmin products but I have to say. I love this thing. Loading it into the computer and then into the handheld took a call to tech support but I was not on hold for more than a minute and they got me straightened out right away. They are very worried about CD's being used on more than one unit and the installation process is accordingly complex. But the software works wonderfully.
  I'd recommend this to anyone.
  
  
• Garmin holds you over an expensive barrel!
  By A3DOHX7O524FLN on 2006-11-11
  While I like the Garmin GPS I have (the extrex venture cx), I don't like being forced to spend over $100 more to buy a local map coverage DVD. I think I read in another review that Microsoft's Pocket Streets won't work on a Garmin GPS, but I had to try it for myself and find out it doesn't. (Pocket Streets does work on my Navman GPS/PDA combo that I have). I actually prefer Pocket Streets to this Garmin software, even though the turn by turn option and distance calculator aren't available. The distance calculations seem to be quite a ways off in terms of mileage anyway though. On a good note, this Garmin software does have the address and phone numbers and offers navigation to points of interest in this software.
  
  
• City Navigator Good with 1gb chip in Garmin 76
  By A137GV1WGHGKRM on 2007-02-08
  Thanks to a tip from another reviewer, I ordered a 1gb chip while CN being shipped...glad I did...68mb chip very limited coverage 1-3 states...1 Gb covers entire US east of Mississippi
  
  
• good navigation software
  By A239N827VWL2DY on 2007-04-06
  I've been using the navigation software for some time, it exceeded my expectations, worked fine in my garmin portable nav. device (etrex venture cx), the reason for the 4 stars is the price, still too expensive.
  
  
  
• Do not buy a Garmin!
  By A2VU8I1GKNSOW3 on 2007-07-14
  I had an older Garmin GPS, and and older Mapsource product. It worked great for years, and I was able to seamlessly transfer maps etc to and from my unit. I got a new eTrex Venture CX unit last week and bought the Mapsource City Navigator product for it. Now days Garmin requires you to "unlock" the maps, unlock the GPS unit, and register before you can use it. The problem is that during this long and complicated process if anything goes wrong you are locked out of using your new maps with your unit. I've spent the last 3 hours trying to get my new unit working with my new maps. This process is extremely frustrating, and of course Garmin's support website is horrible, and they only have support available during business hours while I'm at work. I am extremely disappointed in this company and will not be getting another product from them. Garmin is more concerned about "security" and "profit" than usability and customer support.
  
  
• Review of Garmin Mapsource City Navigator V8.0
  By A1CN2VOVWR3BMB on 2006-08-20
  Excellent product. Very easy to use. Reasonably up-to-date data.
  Product cost makes it a bit prohibitive to upgrade as often as I'd like.
  
  
• Exactly What I Was Looking For
  By A2THX6SAROCI12 on 2006-11-01
  A lot of people seem to complain about the unlocking procedure. I had no trouble, and no problem installing it either. The map data is very complete. On trips between Kansas and Ohio, even obscure roads were available. Gravel and unnumbered roads were shown as thin black lines on the software, but were actually there. As far as I can tell, and for my purposes, this is wholly complete and perfect for my uses.
  
  
• Great updated product
  By A6IOE6QV8K7F7 on 2006-11-04
  This map set met all my expectations, and was far more current than I had expected. Software for turn by turn directions on roadways while driving works great with the Garmin Ctrex GPS. Recommended. To load many states you will need large memory card, 1 GB.
  
  
• Buggy in spots
  By A3UO195ZCOA59U on 2007-01-14
  I got City Navigator North America V8 (CNNAV8) to upgrade from City Select North America V7 (CSNAV7), since City Navigator seems to be (as of Jan-2007) Garmin's standard and City Select is being discontinued. I am being disappointed. The map segments are large and so we have to be careful when loading our Quest (~100MB memory, fixed). I probably would not be able to load a 1000 mi road trip without being careful. The mapping detail seems identical where I have checked, and so the hoped for update to the map data did not materialize.
  
  What is concerning is that the route finding is buggy. This is true on the Quest, the GPSMap 60CSX, and also when running on the workstation. If you own the software you can do a route starting at (UTM WGS84) 10 S 601058 4122344, and finishing at 10 S 601198 4123478. The route taken is about 2X as long as it needs to be. It cannot be that the software is running out of resources since the route is only 1.5 miles long (when going the long way 'round. CSNAV7 finds a route 1/2 as long.)
  
  Given that CSNAV7 does not show these problems, the map segments fit into snaller units more easily and there is no apparent differences in the data where I live, I plan to revert to CSNAV7, and not use CNNAV8 anymore.
  
  I givew it two stars since the remainder of the functionality is good. But if you are planning on buying it for route finding - and I do not see any other reason to buy it - I would look elsewhere, like CS NA V7 if you need Garmin mapping.
  
  
• 1 star as purchased, 4 stars after updating all the software
  By A1THMKQCL441W8 on 2007-01-29
  Be careful when you buy items like this online. The price looked good, but the product (shipped from another vendor that sells through Amazon) was not as expected. We bought this software in December 2006 and received a 2003 version that did not work.
  
  We had to get expert help to figure out what was wrong, and then had to update absolutely everything from the Garmin web site. This took quite a bit of time, but finally we were able to use the software with our GPS.
  
  The user interface is old-fashioned (we are Mac users, so we're spoiled). Each installation of a new map, no matter how small, appears to overwrite everything else on the GPS memory card. If there's a way to add maps without erasing old ones, which there should be, we haven't figured it out yet.
  
  
• MapSource Maps for Auto Navigation
  By A2HDK15OP6MHS2 on 2007-01-30
  Very complete set of maps and reasonably current. Was very helpful in Hawaii where road names seem to be optional sometimes. To load the entire set you need a 2 GB memory card. With a 1 GB card I can load West and central US or central and east. Took two atemptes to get the data in the Garmin... but once it is there everything is good. No Mac software, PC only and there are less expensive maps in the world but because it is a Garmin you have to pay twice as much as other places for the PROPRITARY MapSource FORMAT. Could be 4 stars if the price and PC only versions were not factors for you.
  
  
• Wrong Version Received
  By A1W38VKN2M1FED on 2007-05-11
  The picture shows V8 (version 8). I did not receive version 8, instead I received the old version. I paid extra to get 2 day shipping for a trip I am taking this weekend. Now I have to return it, wait for them to get it, wait 7-14 days for a refund and pray that I get the correct version next time. Otherwise, this is definitely false and deceptive advertising.
  
  
• hard work, but is does what is needed
  By A16XGEEX7TEM7V on 2007-06-21
  I was able to work through the all the hoops to unlock the software, get it loaded and then downloaded to my GPS. Its fine and certainly worth the price given the additional function it adds to the Garmin units that have GPSMAPPING like the 60CX. However, is it really necessary to provide soom much security around this software to limit how you load it once you buy it at a price that already should provide a fair rate of return to the manufacturer? The results of the software, 5 stars, the loading experience thins to three, but I would recommend it.
  
  

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