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Logitech diNovo Edge (967685-0403)x$139.99

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The ultra-slim Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard for Windows PC delivers the ultimate in feel and response. The revolutionary TouchDisc with hyper-speed scrolling and pixel-perfect control makes trackpads obsolete. The slim recharging base doubles as a keyboard stand. Work longer thanks to the longer-lasting Li-Ion batteries and more securely via Bluetooth wireless technology. A precision micro-scissors mechanism distributes typing force evenly across key surfaces, making every stroke natural and fluid. Stylishly sleek Laser-cut from a single piece of Plexiglass and set in a brushed aluminum frame, the diNovo Edge makes a bold statement. Full-sized standard 18 x 18 mm keys, 3.2 mm key travel, 60g activation force 10M keystroke supported per key Scissor switch technology Plexiglas panel with brushed aluminum palm rest 38 mm circular Touchpad with horizontal and vertical scrolling Acceleration settings goes from None to 10 times the scrolling speed 17 one-touch access controls with instant backlit feedback 57 mm touch sensitive volume slider with instant backlit feedback Built-in rechargeable 950 mAh lithium ion battery Fast-charge time - About 5 min for approx. one day usage Full-charge time - About 2 hours for up to 2 months usage System Requirements - IBM or Compatible PC, Windows XP (SP2) or Windows Vista (all editions), Available USB port, CD-ROM Drive Dimensions (HxWxD) - 0.43 x 16.14 x 8.27 inches ( 11 x 410 x 210 mm ) Weight - 940 grams

An ideal partner for any high-end computer, the ultra-slim Logitech diNovo Edge delivers the ultimate in feel and response. The revolutionary TouchDisc with hyper-speed scrolling and pixel-perfect control makes trackpads obsolete. A slim recharging base doubles as a keyboard stand. Work longer thanks to the longer-lasting Li-Ion batteries, and more securely via Bluetooth wireless technology. Combine it with the world's most advanced mouse, the Logitech MX Revolution, for a premium desktop experience!

Features

     
           
PerfectStroke key system
A precision micro-scissors mechanism distributes typing force evenly across key surfaces, making every stroke natural and fluid.
  Stylishly sleek
Laser-cut from a single piece of Plexiglass and set in a brushed aluminum frame, the diNovo Edge makes a bold statement.  Only 11 mm thick!
  Elegant charging base
Put your keyboard on display while charging via the slim base/stand.  Advanced Li-ion batteries recharge faster and last longer. 
 
           
     
           
TouchDisc scrolling
A new type of touchpad, the TouchDisc unifies scrolling, selection, and cursor control. Scroll at hyperspeed with a touch of your finger.
  Backlit stealth controls
Hidden hot keys light up at a touch, and fade into the background when not in use. The touch-sensitive volume slider gives you precise, fingertip audio control.
  Bluetooth wireless technology
Bluetooth wireless technology ensures seamless, secure operation from up to 30 feet.
 

System Requirements

  • IBM or Compatible PC
  • Windows XP (SP2) or Windows Vista (all editions)
  • Available USB port
  • CD-ROM Drive

Hardware

Keyframe

  • Full-sized standard 18 X 18 mm keys, 3.2 mm key travel, 60g activation force
  • 10M keystroke supported per key
  • Scissor switch technology
  • Plexiglas panel with brushed aluminum palm rest

Enhanced Controls

  • 38 mm circular touchpad with horizontal and vertical scrolling
  • Acceleration settings goes from None to 10 times the scrolling speed
  • TouchDisk can be disabled with FN + Left Click on the keyboard
  • 17 one-touch access controls with instant backlit feedback
  • 57 mm touch sensitive volume slider with instant backlit feedback

Connectivity

  • Bluetooth Wireless Technology, version 2.0
  • Supports Widcomm 5.1 Bluetooth stack

Power and Battery

  • Built-in rechargeable 950 mA  lithium ion battery
  • Fast-charge time: About 5 min for approx. one day usage
  • Full-charge time: About 2 hours for up to 2 months usage

Dimensions and Weight

  • 11 mm (H) X 410 mm (W) X 210 mm (D)  
  • 940 grams

Package Contents

  • Logitech diNovo Edge Keyboard
  • Charging base
  • AC power cord
  • USB mini-receiver
  • Installation CD, includes: 
    • Logitech SetPoint version 3.10
    • Comfort guidelines
    • Help center
  • User's guide
  • 3-year limited warranty 
MPN: 967685-0403 - UPC: 840356734279



Customer Reviews

  • Slim and Stylish


    By A3QNX5KWHDV0GD on 2007-02-17
    So who spends almost $200 on a keyboard that doesn't even have a number pad? Well, I do...

    If you are in the market for a good utilitarian cordless keyboard to use, this might not be the best choice. But if you like unique, stylish computer gear, that still works well, then this makes a nice addition to your desktop. Even if you don't get a chance to show it off to your friends, you'll enjoy looking at it sitting in its charging stand, or on your desk. It must hold a pretty good charge, because I've only charged it once in the month that I've had it. So if you're thinking the charger is too cumbersome to take with you on a trip, you don't have to worry about it; you won't need it. And at about 1/2" thick, it won't take up much space in your bag.

    You could hook it up using the built-in bluetooth in your computer, but unless you're starved for USB ports, the receiver is about the size of a small flash drive (unlike the previous DiNovo Desktop). It connects instantly too, so you won't spend ages trying to figure out why it's not connected.

    The trackpad is a small circlular affair, positioned off to the right, so you won't be constantly hitting it like the pads on most laptops. Only southpaw mousers will suffer from this layout. And scrolling with the pad works surprisingly well.

    A few drawbacks are the lack of a number pad. You don't even get the typical fn + keys to enter numbers, which could have been easily included, but wasn't. And the fn key is to the right of the spacebar, which is opposite from what most people are used to using. Other than that you get a full set of keys (except the number pad). Plus nicely placed zoom buttons, volume control, and media keys, and a nice oversized delete key.

    Keystrokes are short, but give reasonable tactile feedback. I'm not a very good typist, but I don't think those who are will find much to complain about.

    And depending on your computer you can lay it right on top of laptop keyboard. Or use it from across the room.

    I was worried that I would be sacrificing usability for style and looks, but it turned out not ot be the case.

    I give the diNovo top marks in all respects. This is one of Logitech's success stories, unlike some of their products.

    I'm very pleased with this purchase.

    update 03/01/07 Since I just got a MacBook I thought I would update my review with some new info. Logitech does not support this keyboard for use with Macs (when you open Logitech Control Center, similar to Setpoint but for Macs), it won't recognize the keyboard. But that doesn't mean it won't work. Mac's bluetooth recognizes and pairs the kb instantly, and almost all functions work. What doesn't work is the set of buttons on the left (which I don't use anyway). And the fn+function keys don't work either as far as I can tell (the function keys themselves do work, and F12 works as an eject button for the DVD drive). But the mousepad works the same, as does the volume control, and the 'windows' key functions as the 'apple' key.

    In addition, if you flip up the legs, the DiNovo will fit perfectly over a 17" MackBook Pro. So if you have a Mac and this keyboard, you won't have to put it aside till Logitach decides to support it.

    I would also assume that third parties will come out with drivers or whatever might be needed to fill the void.


  • Pretty, feels good, far from perfect, overpriced


    By A234SRAQE7I12C on 2007-09-05
    I feel like the Grinch after reading all the gushing reviews of this thing, but it's only a good keyboard, not a religious experience.

    Yes, it's thin, nicely styled, and most of all has a wonderful feel--keys are silent, have a short throw, and have no play or sloppy feel. Every stroke feels sure and positive. It has the feel of a laptop keyboard on a desktop computer--best of both worlds.

    But the layout is distinctly nonstandard, even whimsical. There is no 10-key number pad, which others have noted rather casually. I've never done a spreadsheet in my life, but I miss it even for entering phone numbers, addresses, charge card numbers, every number in everyday use is amazingly awkward without it. "Delete" has grown to double size, and the whole Home/End/Page up/Page down cluster is configured to guarantee some unwelcome surprises, for no reason that I can imagine. "Page up" is not at the top of the cluster; that space is given to the perky, promoted "End" key. Don't bother to look for the "right-click" context menu key to the right of the space bar as on every other keyboard I've ever seen in the world. It's not there or anywhere else. Its place is taken by an "Fn" key, also in a nonstandard location, which serves to reveal extra functions for F1-F12 keys, some programmable, most not, and "Scroll lock" and "Pause/B" keys, hidden secondary functions of "Insert" and "Print screen" respectively.

    The software is disappointing: First it froze on installation, and required a second installation. Then its help file (the only documentation that exists--printed material is SO 20th century) turned out to be not specific to this product, but generic to Logitech products. One has to plow through all manner of irrelevant material to pick out what's relevant for this product. Sort of shabby for a flagship product with a flagship price.

    Worse, it just doesn't do what it says it will. The "Media" hot key can be set to do one of various things, including popping up a mini-menu of media applications. So I created the menu, and assigned it to the key, but pressing the key doesn't display the menu. Instead, it starts the first program listed on the menu. That's a very different, less impressive function.

    Having started the (wrong) media program, the keyboard's dedicated media control keys for Play/pause, Stop, Back, and Forward didn't work at all in it. By dedicated, I mean non-programmable; they are hidden functions of F5 through F8, entirely unmarked until pressing the "Fn" key reveals them as lit icons showing through the sleek black surface of the keyboard. Having revealed them, I have yet to make them actually work.

    Both Logitech and (especially) Kensington have produced vastly superior programmable-key/button functions fifteen years ago for their mice. This isn't cutting-edge stuff, and still it doesn't work.

    Oooh, almost forgot the amazing super-duper touch-disk! Why? Because it's nothing new or remarkable at all. It's a touch pad that's round instead of square, again to no obvious advantage. Its action is adjustable, both in mouse mode and in scroll speed. I've got touchpads from ten years ago with more impressive features, like an adjustable size for the scrolling part (outer margin of the surface), an option for a tap to be a double-click in one area, etc.

    For a desktop computer, the wireless bluetooth feature is useless for me.

    If this were a $50 keyboard, I'd recommend it for its touch, with a warning about all the nonstandard placements, and lack of number keypad, and defective software. For a list of $200, its failings become less tolerable.

  • A good professional's keyboard


    By A32A07WXYB5EM5 on 2007-02-01
    (At the time of writing this review, I've owned this keyboard for about a month now.)

    This is definitely a professional's keyboard. It's got a soft enough touch not to cause strain when you're typing for hours, but enough resistance, travel, and sudden reduction of resistance (I forget the proper term for how the key's resistance goes away once you've registered a keystroke) to allow you to type accurately. Being only 11mm tall, you don't need one of those cumbersome wrist rests -- your hands are barely above the table that you're typing on, so your posture is just naturally good. The keys are also a very good size -- I'm a touch typist (not trained; everyone becomes a touch typist if they type enough) and the keys are spaced very well to allow you to touch type without mistakes.

    That the keyboard is pretty doesn't need further comment; it's also very solid. The first thing I noticed when I took it out of the box was that the keyboard was really solid. It may not be a cheap keyboard, but it's not made cheaply, either.

    Thankfully the included receiver does bluetooth-to-usb conversion, so using the keyboard is simple plug-and-play, at least in Linux. (All of the keys work fine in Linux, there's still a bug in the mouse driver which disables the touch pad, but there will be a fix in USB mouse driver which fixes that, I believe -- a cursory google reveals at least one patch floating around.) I've never tried it in windows (I do embedded development in a Linux environment).

    The battery life isn't an issue. Supposedly it can go a whole month on a single charge, but I can't fathom letting it go that long. As other commenters have noted, it looks good so good in its stand that when you finish for the day, you might as well put it there so that you have something pleasing to see when you start the next morning. Even so, I have gone close to a week without recharging it and didn't notice the slightest difference, so I believe the month-on-a-charge claim.

    The bluetooth links is very reliable -- I've never missed a single keystroke. The touch-based volume control is really cool, and works quite well.

    Oh, one other thing about it I love: instead of using an LED for caps lock, it beeps at you in one tone for turning caps lock on, and in another tone for turning caps lock off. I can't figure out who would use caps lock (and not a number pad) in the modern world, but as long as this mis-feature persists on keyboards, the beeping is extremely helpful for touch-typists who get a little sloppy with the left shift key.

    In summary, I highly recommend this keyboard to any professional who can afford good tools. I'm very glad that I bought this keyboard.

  • Ridiculously good looking, ridiculously impractical


    By A35QRTOA6YLJXF on 2007-01-03
    In summary: Awesome looking! Integrated trackpad is sweet! Looks like something out of the future! But, I returned mine for two easily fixed problems, the charging base is large & impractical and they used bluetooth.

    In detail: anyone that can afford this keyboard can afford a four-pack of AA batteries once every couple of months (use rechargeable AA batteries if you want to)... keep our desk clean and our power strips uncluttered, do away with the charging base and come out with a model that accepts AA.

    Logitech should have used a USB receiver, bluetooth is a pain in real-life, if you don't believe me, try it... even if bluetooth was unavoidable it seems like the left hand had no idea what the right hand was doing... this is supposed to be the "worlds greatest keyboard" you would think it could share the same USB dongle as Logitechs MX Revolution or "worlds greatest mouse"... instead, the keyboard uses bluetooth and the mouse uses RF, dumb, dumb, dumb. So if you buy the "worlds greatest" mouse and keyboard you end up taking up two power plugs, having two charging bases on your desk, and have both a USB rf and USB bluetooth dongle plugged in the back of your computer/hub... wasn't the idea to get rid of wires? did I say dumb?

    Other minor qualms: the keyboard action is not very reassuring... the travel is too short. This keyboard is like a shiny black car... it looks great out of the carwash but don't let it get dirty... it attracts fingerprints like crazy...

    I really wanted to like this keyboard because it looks so darn good... but try as I might I just can not recommend this for anyone outside of art studios, porsche dealers and anyone that buys Izod :-)



  • Scroll pad doesn't work


    By A3A1J9JNYJ4LDA on 2006-11-20
    It looks sexy, but it just doesn't work. The scroll pad is so finicky I wanted to throw it out the window after the first hour. About half the time it moves the cursor when you want to scroll, or it scrolls when you want to move the cursor. The other half the time, it does nothing no matter what part of the pad you touch or how hard or lightly you press. Also beware that if you return this just because you're not satisfied with how it works, Amazon will charge you for both outgoing and return postage! (I've giving it one star out of pity, and because it does look sharp.)

  • I love this keyboard
    By A1VS1LL905P5L5 on 2006-12-31
    I have been using an older Logitech keyboard which was larger and a bit long in the tooth but still performed flawlessly. This upgrade was mainly for it's elegance of design and simplicity. The key "feel" is perfect as others have testified to, making typing feel precise. The slim profile is very elegant and it is not cluttered with unnecessary buttons that will not be used. I like having the mouse pad which although used infrequently, still it is convenient at times. I love the fact that I can charge it in the stand which eliminates desk clutter while it is charging. Apple has been the leader in industrial design in it's products for a long time. Logitech is one of the companies that "gets" it also. I feel this keyboard is overly expensive but still gave it 5 stars because if it fits into your budget it is a joy to look at, use and own. Almost the definition of art. Highly recommended.

  • Edgy Keyboard for Work and Play
    By AZ00PNKDQTUAJ on 2007-01-13
    Now look here. Disregard all those one- and two- (and three- and four-) star reviews. If you immediately order anything shiny that scrolls past your screen, you might not know what you're getting with this keyboard. If you did your research, however, you will not be disappointed once you make the decision to buy Logitech's latest wireless solution. As a professional writer, I can tell you that the diNovo Edge is a well-organized, well-designed unit tailor-made for those interested in their keyboards as an extension of themselves and as a primary (and indispensable) tool for the expression of thought. Writing is serious business, and the Edge is a serious keyboard.

    The key layout is fairly standard, and will be comfortably accessible to anyone already used to the mini-/laptop-keyboard size and response. The keys depress silently and fluidly, and everything works seamlessly on XP. The programmable second-echelon F-keys are a nice touch, and their orange backlighting is eye-catching and practical. In all, you get 14 modifiable keys out the box; and F5 through F8 have the secondary function as media controls (back, stop, play/pause, forward). These will default to whatever media player you have open at the moment (or whichever you are using primarily in the foreground).

    The trackpad makes the unit a very good all-in-one for any situation where you want to relax and type with the unit in your lap. Indeed, it takes some getting used to, but the vertical and horizontal scrolling functions are intuitive enough and work as expected (which is quite well). Intensive browsers and application-switchers will undoubtedly want a traditional wireless mouse to go with the set, but such is not actually necessary to get full mouse functionality. The volume slider is extremely responsive, and -- as one reviewer pointed out -- indeed makes you feel like Scotty working the transporter console.

    Bluetooth's 30-foot range makes it viable for nearly any spot around your home-theatre, and charges last as advertised. That means that one full charge gets you two months of semi-continuous use, while quick-charging wiill give you one day for every five minutes in the cradle. However, you'll likely keep the thing in its dock a lot more than is actually necessary, because it looks so slick standing up for all to see.

    Aesthetically, there are complaints of fingerprints being detrimentally noticeable. This is true, because the unit is cut from plexiglass and is black, giving it a slight mirror-effect. It comes with a cleaning cloth, though; and a quick wipe will tidy the keyboard right up. You know -- if you're having company or somehting.

    After some study, I decided to switch from my old EluminX to the diNovo Edge, and I am pleased with every aspect of the change. Except that the Edge does not light up in the manner to which I've grown accustomed. Still, that's a moot point, because the Logitech's not an illuminated keyboard nor ever claimed to be. Perhaps future iterations will have that functionality, but as a "next-generation" keyboard, the Edge is the best I've seen anywhere to date.

    I have so far put about 5000 words per day (for two weeks, roughly)through the thing and have had no problems.

    And if you like orange, the entire back panel is that delightful color.

    You will not be disappointed if you do your homework and decide the thing is right for you.

    Hope this helps.


  • Good, but minor changes would make it much better
    By A12OHQB47TCGBN on 2006-11-30
    First off, I've only been using this for a couple of hours, so I can't speak to its reliability or long-term quality. The keyboard does feel solidly built, despite a very slim profile. Many parts of the keyboard seem very well thought out, including the feel of depressing the keys. However, people who use the Windows Context Menu button will find that this keyboard lacks one. The closest button it offers is the right-click button below the track pad, but you have to use the track pad to select an item and not the arrow keys for it to work. The track pad is also in a terrible place. It should be centered on the keyboard so both left- and right-handed people can use it. As a left-handed person, I find it extremely awkward to use. The keyboard set up easily on Windows XP without installing any software (just plugged in the Bluetooth device and turned the keyboard on). However, I recommend installing the software because it adds many additional features and customization options. The battery life is great -- it came out of the box with a half charge, which equates to 30 days of use remaining, according to the software battery indicator.

    Update: I've been using this keyboard for almost two months now and it's been wonderful. I've only charged it once since I bought it and I never turn it off to conserve battery life. If you install the software, it will tell you when you have 5 days of power left by showing a battery icon in the system tray and also periodically illuminate a low battery indicator on the keyboard. I downloaded a very small free program called SharpKeys that allows me to customize the keyboard keys, so now I have my Context Menu pull up by hitting the Insert key (which I never use for anything else anyway). I never really got too used to the scroll-wheel touch pad, but I did buy a 2.4Ghz Logitech mouse so I just use that most of the time. I use the keyboard with my 40" TV across the room so text on websites is sometimes too small to read, but the convenient zoom buttons on the keyboard take care of that quickly and easily. It has been responsive and reliable!

  • This is a GLORIFIED NOTEBOOK KEYBOARD ! YUK!
    By AKN5Q3PJULG31 on 2007-02-23
    If your reading this you're already contemplating putting money behind the most useful item between you and the computer -YOUR KEYBOARD.

    Only certain types of people would actually BUY this thing.
    1.You want a quiet keyboard
    2.You don't need a numeric keypad
    3.You want to save space
    4.You actually LIKE typing on a notebook
    5.You're not looking to improve your typing speed
    6.You want something that looks modern

    I will now go through these item by item.

    I actually bought this keyboard at first because I was willing to spend any amount to save space first AND get the best typing experience.

    1. Quiet
    At first, I was amazed at the quietness of the keyboard. Some work environments demand this, mine does not thankfully. However, after a while you miss a tactical feedback like a real keyboard gives. Plus if you want quiet you can get that on almost any keyboard today for a lot less. But, for quiet it gets a 10.

    2. Space Saving
    By eliminating the numeric keypad you'll definately save space and NOT be reaching too far for your mouse. But they put this stupid touchpad in which defeats the purpose. Space Savings get a 5

    3. Numeric Key Pad.
    If you really think about it the numeric keypad is kind of a waste along with that awful Windows calculator. I just went and bought a great printing calculator from Monroe. Now, if you REALLY want a numberic keypad get an external one anyone. Kensington, HP, and Logitech all make one and they are ALL better than the numeric keypad on keyboards. I maintain you should always have a printing calculator anyhow.

    4. You actually like typing on a notebook keyboard.
    NOW HERE'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD
    Do you know anyone that actually would pick their keyboard of choice as a NOTEBOOK? Yep, neither do I. This keyboard tries to find a blend. There just isn't one.

    Why this "notebook keyboard" doesn't really work well for someone WHO TYPES A LOT.

    1.Many important keys are cramped and placed in odd places
    2.The keys have NO real up or downward travel, it's too short.
    3.The keys look slightly taller than a notebook but that doesn't do anything for travel.
    4.The keyboard is mushy, it has to be to get the quiet.
    5.No tactical feedback at all.
    6.Arrow keys and other keys are not seperated enough from the other keys.
    7.This keyboard uses scissors technology - THE EXACT THING A NOTEBOOK USES. Theirs is probably one of the better keys in this class.
    8.The best keyboards in the world still use an individual key switch (ALPS) which are replaceable and can provide great up and down travel and even a click which I prefer. Once your past the click your fingers can move on because you FEEL IT AND HEAR IT.


    5.Looks Modern - it does today, it won't tommorrow
    [...]
    This keyboard is NOT a true typist keyboard. It's designed as a pilot station for "cool" factor people.

  • Good keyboard - but not up to the pricetag
    By A34TK5GNA8JOZV on 2007-04-15
    I recently picked up this keyboard as an attempted replacement for my Adesso wireless keyboard with touchpad I've been using for control of my HTPC from the couch. This keyboard is good - but not good enough to justify the price premium, so it's going back to the retailer until I can find something better.

    The good:
    - Looks - it's beautiful (as you already know, and why you are interested).
    - The keys are nice - very similar look, feel and layout to my Thinkpad - which is a good thing.
    - The media launch buttons and zoom buttons are great for a HTPC
    - Setup was a breeze - no configuration required to get the basic functionality working. And no missed keystrokes so far.

    The not so good:
    - The touchpad. It's ok - but at this price point it should be great. This was my main beef with the Adesso, and as this one is only incrementally better, it's not worth it. The scrolling features, which are, imo, one of the most important features of a touchpad, are difficult to use consistently.
    - The size. The Adesso has it all over logitech on this one. This keyboard pretty much requires two hands, and the thing is huge (for a remote replacement). If you're using it on a desk, it probably won't be an issue. In the livingroom, however, I'd prefer if they were a little more thoughtful about the size.
    - The media controls. As opposed to the Adesso, which has none, the few that Logitech gives you are nice, but there aren't enough of them! There is tons of extra space on this keyboard, so why are the bulk of these keys paired with the F keys which requires two hands to operate?? How about some dedicated keys?
    - No backlight! Why on earth isn't the main keyboard backlit? I knew this going in to the purchase, but this keyboard is supposed to be cutting edge and top of the line. Backlighting should be mandatory for a keyboard marketed to HTPC users.
    - The charging stand. I know it's a good looking piece of equipment, but please. I don't really care to show it off, and finding a permanent location that fits the keyboard in the cradle in my living room isn't easy. I'd prefer at least the option of just connecting via a cable.

  • Perfect for your HDTV / Computer Experience!!!
    By A1JRCHMJU59A32 on 2006-12-13
    I purchased a 50" inch plasma recently and needed a nice lightweight wireless keyboard to access my laptop and video archive. This was the perfect solution. It works superbly without any lag whatsoever (games, normal comp use, etc.) the materials are all top notch and there is no feeling of flimsy-ness at all. I now control at a touch of a button my computer's arsenal of music, videos, and I hate to admit it, but excel spreadsheets - :) I LOVE THIS PRODUCT!

  • Lovely keyboard
    By A3TJ1V8IW0VNBT on 2007-01-29
    I bought this on a lark. It's expensive, but its design is more reminiscent of Bang & Olufsen's super-duper-pretty audio gear than normal PC equipment.

    The keyboard itself is quite nice. I'm typing on it now, and the feel is as good as any I've used. (And I've used a lot -- starting with ASR 33 teletypes, through dumb terminals, PCs, workstations, etc.)

    Yes, the charging station might not fit well in some desk environments. It works really well in mine, and you only have to charge the Li-Ion battery every month or two. If it runs out, a five minute charge will last a day.

    The "ultimately cool" application for this keyboard would be a home theater. You'd be able to work on documents without compromising ergonomics, and then use the same keyboard as a pretty handy MCE remote. And if you're willing to pay more than $150 bucks for a keyboard, then you're just the right candidate for a 50" 1080p flat panel. That's the ticket!

    The built-in trackpad works as well as the one on notebooks, although the area is a little smaller. I use the keyboard in conjunction with a Wacom tablet, and the combination is just about right.

    Vista support: I've been using Vista for a few months now (yeah, I'm in the computer biz), and Vista more or less has support for the keyboard built in. I expect Logitech will eventually release a version of their setpoint software to get at the little extras (like remapping the function keys). Or maybe Vista has this buried in some menu!

    The vertical/horizontal scroll wheel is just a little bit frustrating in Vista; you have to pay careful attention in order to be able to use it.

    One of the other reviewers complained about the Bluetooth not working smoothly. Vista just ate the thing up; I was up and running ten seconds after opening the box. I just plugged in their dongle and turned the keyboard on (it came charged). Voila!

    There is absolutely no way to justify a $150 keyboard quantitatively -- you really just have to decide that you need something this sleek. Bottom line: if you like the looks, and are willing to pay for them, you won't be disappointed.

  • Works great for multimedia PC in the living room, however not for gaming.
    By A3AAGM9UAXILA7 on 2007-03-18
    Overall I am impressed with the DiNovo Edge. It is a sleek and beautifully made product. Everything about it screams high-tech except for one thing, there is lag in the response from the touchpad and mouse buttons. In everyday web browsing and normal applications you would never notice, however when you try to play a game, even some simple flash games that require timing you will notice a fraction of a second delay that is neither consistent nor predictable. Sometimes a mouse press will happen almost immediately and other times it will lag perhaps a quarter of a second. I also loaded up Far Cry to test playing from my couch. Of course a touchpad is no way to play a first person shooter but the results were far worse than I had anticipated. Every movement was delayed and it was something like playing an online server with huge amounts of lag. It was literally impossible to aim with any precision.

    Realistically this keyboard is not a gaming solution, nor is it advertised as one. I have a wired USB keyboard and mouse for when I want to play games and I would recommend you do the same if you are going to use the DiNovo Edge unless your multimedia PC is being used for movies music and simple browsing only. I did find it annoying that for instance if I wanted to play a flash game like Nanaca Crash from my sofa I needed to attach my Bluetooth mouse which incidentally cannot negotiate a connection with the bluetooth adapter that comes with the DiNovo.

    Therein lies another problem, the Bluetooth adapter that comes with the DiNovo Edge apparently is hard coded to communicate only with the Edge and cannot be used as a general purpose Bluetooth hub. The situation is good for security reasons but creates a hassle because I need to plug in a seperate Bluetooth adapter for my Bluetooth mouse. I would simply configure the Edge to work on the other Bluetooth adapter except that one and the Bluetooth mouse travel with my notebook computer and are not always available. When I mad the purchase of the Edge I was hoping that because the Edge's packed in Bluetooth adapter uses the Widcomm stack that I would be able to use devices such as my Motorola H500 headset and perhaps sync with my Motorola Razor. Unfortunately to do so I would need to buy yet another Bluetooth adapter. You would think that for close to $200 Logitech would pack in a Bluetooth adapter without limitations. I've also been concerned that finding information about if the Bluetooth connection is encrypted has proven difficult and I still don't know if I should feel secure typing sensitive passwords on a wireless keyboard with such exceptional range.

    Back to the pluses, the wireless range is excellent, battery life phenomenal, the touch pad though a bit small has excellent sensitivity and the sroll features are both interesting and innovative. The light up ring around the touchpad looks really neat plus it gives you feedback that you are pressing the touchpad and it gives you a target area to reach for when you are thumbing the pad in the dark. Something I've noticed is that when I'm using my notebook computer's touch pad I'm sometimes really missing the scroll features that the Edge offers. That is a sure sign that the scroll features are less gimmicky and more useful than I had first thought they would be. The scroll feature doesn't always seem to catch on the first try and on occasion I thumb too close to the scroll areas so I start scrolling instead of moving the pointer. Such mistakes are seldom detrimental but perhaps would occur less often if the touchpad were larger. The left and right buttons are located just beneath the pad and are shaped so that you can find them by feel pretty easily. There is an additional left click button to the left of the keyboard that is the one I find most comfortable to use while grasping the keyboard by it's sides to mouse around.
    The volume slider is great, and the LEDs that trace your finger look awesome and offer excellent feedback that your commands are being received. Sometimes it doesn't catch on right away that I am pressing it. On occasion I'll find myself stroking the volume controller once or twice before the volume actually begins changing. I believe it is due to a buildup of finger oils which will accumulate quickly unless you fastidiously clean the DiNovo Edge after every use. I do believe that sometimes the driver lags some when you start sliding the volume, I haven't confirmed this because on the occasions where it has happened I wasn't looking at the DiNovo Edge to know if the LEDs were actually lighting up acknowleging my input. Maybe I miss the narrow controller because it is hard to see exactly where you need your finger to go to activate it in the dark. Interestingly I've also had the volume bar get activated from my shirt sleeve brushing against it if it's on the armrest of my sofa. Practically any object that so much as brushes the volume slider's hot zone causes it to activate.
    The LEDs and the hidden function key lights are tops in terms of "gee whiz" coolness. I find that I use the function keys very little because of the inconvenience of having to hold the function key on the bottom row of the keyboard then hunting for the proper function up top. Most of the time it's easier to just point and click the equivalent command. The exception is the media controls when you don't want to pop out of full screen video. A function lock key would have been most welcome.
    The keys themselves feel great and the key travel is adequate to make you feel like you are typing on a keyboard that is much heftier. I can't emphasize that if you are a writer or a web editor or a programmer this keyboard will impress you during those times when you are typing non-stop. Durability and build quality seem very good even though the right shift key clicks annoyingly if it's struck near it's right edge which is common if I am dragging files using my index finger and want to press shift with my thumb to move them instead of copying. I think it is a problem due to the key's width, it is second to the spacebar in that regard and probably has only 1 set of scissors supporting the key where the spacebar probably has 2 side by side.
    The keyboard has a small onboard speaker so that when you power it on it makes a little beep along with a spectacular LED light show that has to be seen to be believed. The beeps are also useful as the keyboard makes two different tones for when Caps Lock is turned on and off. Gone are the days of typing in all caps without knowing it.
    The glossy black and brushed aluminum look amazing. Even the bright orange back plate doesn't look out of place. The stand up charger is a space saver and looks equally attractive. The Edge is as much a showpiece and conversation piece as it is an input device. The stand up charger may seem pretentious but it does show off the Edge in all it's splendor. What it might also show off is every single place it's glossy face has been touched. The keys themselves weather dirt and oils well but the glossy face will leave steaks of oil if you simply brush a hand or finger against it. There is an included microfiber cleaning cloth that will get plenty of use. Keep it handy because you will want to use it often. I wish that Logitech had made some sort of effort to include the microfiber cloth into the design of the Edge. As things are I have the cloth laying beside the charger looking rather out of place. If the charger stand had a compartment for the cloth or better yet if there were a microfiber cloth built in to the back of the Edge it would be a much better solution than having the cloth floating loose.
    I may sound like I'm quibbling over the small stuff but for such a high priced product you would expect this keyboard to be nearly perfect, but from that it falls a bit short. It's probably the best wireless all in one keyboard and touchpad solution on the market today, but there is still room for improvement. Highly recommended for multimedia PCs. For any other use I would expect the price to be prohibitive and a full keyboard/mouse solution would work better.

  • Looks Great! Works Better!
    By A19KGU8T9V4WPA on 2006-11-29
    I defy you to not say "WOW" or "COOL" when you open the box. This keyboard is slick and the touch is what I've been looking for, for years. This is just such a pleasure to use. And the scroll in a circle is great! The touchpad has all the normal functionality such as tapping to click, etc. but the scrolling feature makes browsing so easy. I hardly use the regular mouse anymore except for highly repetitive tasks. The only down side? The touch disk is sensitive and took a little practice at first but once you get used to the light touch you'll love it. If you're a touch typist, you'll LOVE the "throw" on the keys so not only do you type fast but silently as well. Pricey keyboard yes, but worth the bucks.

    Update: I've now been using this keyboard for close to a year and am as happy today as I was the day I received it. The bluetooth has always worked, I charge it every other month but I do use it at least 12 hours a day. The touch is the same now as new. To summarize, great looks, comfortable, perfect touch...it just doesn't get better than this.

  • Nice looking keyboard, that's why you want it
    By A15I0U9WUAHGT9 on 2006-12-14
    I was looking for a cool USB keyboard and this one, while pricey, looked like a fit. The volume control slider makes me think of the Star Trek transporter controls. The on-demand lighted upper labels are cool when you press the Fn key.

    Typing is not fantastic, a little mushy, but looks outweights functionality in this case. I also think I hear a faint squeaking noise when I type. This may all just go away once I get used to typing on the thing. Another downside is that the lack of a numeric keypad and a non-standard Backspace size and Ins/Del/etc. layout will also take getting used to. But it's pretty, remember.

    I even swapped out my fancy KVM switch for a different one once I found that it didn't work with this keyboard and support its drivers (necessary for the volume and mousepad controls). It was lucky that the Belkin Flip KVM switch has both a physical button to switch ports (my previous switch had trouble with wireless USB keyboard and key-driven switching) and even still supports key-driven switching. I assumed it wouldn't, which is why I looked for a KVM switch with a physical button.

  • I LOVE this keyboard/mouse
    By A3Q2SXHYPQAM6G on 2007-02-01
    I guess I should start this by saying that I'm a software engineer and keyboards are pretty important to me as I use them all day everyday for work. I purchased this keyboard because I built a media center computer to watch movies and shows on my new projector and the range on my other wireless keyboard and mouse was terrible (~2 feet reliably).

    I took the keyboard out of the box and was pretty impressed. It is quite a beautiful device. I'm currently running Vista and the bluetooth receiver installed almost instantly and without notification or error. I charged the keybaord for about 10 minutes and started using it. A really easy setup.

    I like how they raised the bottom keys of the keyboard (left ctrl through right ctrl). That makes it easier to locate them in the dark and just feels better. The mouse took a minute to get used to but now I think it's awesome. It lights up when it is touched too. The fast-scrolling is pretty hot. I like how the keys on the keyboard respond physically when I press them. They are soft but still have just enough resistance to them to let you know that you've pressed a key. I can probably type about 90% of my regular speed as I can with my regular "natural"-style corded keyboard.

    Overall I'm happy with this keyboard and have had ZERO of the problems other reviewers have had. It was a hefty price tag and believe me, I would have given it fewer stars if it didn't function as good as it has for this price...

  • Superior Keyboard with a Few Flaws
    By A33ZYFE8XMKKR1 on 2007-09-03
    With keyboards costing as little as $10 these days, it is quite interesting that Logitech would market a $200 device. When first considering this purchase, I began to wonder if consumers were merely running out of computer accessories to buy and needed an outlet by acquiring superfluous peripherals. Yet, I was willing to take a chance as I spend 10+ hours per day in front of a computer. For me, any productivity enhancement is worth the investment. And that is exactly what I got with the diNovo Edge.

    Like most users, I have grown accustomed to notebook keyboards as their keys have a much smaller travel than those on desktop keyboards. For me, I am simply able to type faster. The shallow keys were initially what attracted me to the diNovo Edge. As such, I have been very happy with the keyboard's feel. Moreover, it is probably the fastest desktop keyboard I have ever used.

    Another feature of importance is its Bluetooth connectivity. My notebook has integrated Bluetooth, making setup in the morning a rather brief activity. Nine of ten times, my Dell XPS notebook recognized the keyboard without a hitch. In fact, even the initial setup was relatively easy. However, I would recommend *NOT* using the CD included as Logitech has made several revisions to the Setpoint software. Download the latest version from the Logitech web site. Even if you don't care about the additional features, Logitech tech support will always tell you to install the latest version of the software if they can't figure out what is wrong with your setup.

    This leads to one of my biggest irritations with my user experience. When pressing the Caps Lock key there is beep. Disengaging the Caps Lock key creates another beep with a different tone. The Setpoint software has a setting to toggle this audible alert on or off. However, it doesn't work with this particular keyboard. After installing and uninstalling different versions of Setpoint four times, I contacted Logitech tech support. What was really irritating is the representative wanted me to reinstall it again in safe mode. I finally gave up when someone on the Logitech user forum, who appeared to be an employee, said that the toggle did not work - for now.

    There are some other shortcomings with the diNovo Edge that the buyer should be cognizant of before purchase. Most obviously, it lacks a number pad. This can be issue for some users. As I am accustomed to notebook keyboards, this isn't a big problem for me personally. What is a daily irritation, however, is the mirror surface of keyboard shell. It attracts fingerprints more easily than any opaque surface I have even seen. It requires constant polishing with the enclosed cloth or with tissue - if you care about its appearance. Clearly, Logitech engineers knew this was going to be a problem given they included a piece of velvety material to remove smudge marks.

    Despite the price and shortcomings, the diNovo Edge was a worthwhile purchase. Additionally, I consider it a good value from both an overall quality standpoint as well as in a return on my investment through productivity gains. If you spend a great deal of time typing and are looking for an extra "edge", I would suggest acquiring this keyboard.

    Pros
    Precision keys
    Built in lithium-ion battery
    Charging cradle
    Aesthetics (sans fingerprints)

    Cons
    No keypad
    Mirror surface easily attracts fingerprints
    Uncontrollable beeping when depressing the Caps Lock key


  • bad quality control
    By A356C9KT4P302I on 2007-11-30
    If Logitech could actually package the keyboard without breaking it, I think it would be pretty good. I've posted pictures in the customer gallery of what has greeted me upon opening two different new, unopened, undamaged boxes. I opened a customer support case with Logitech on their website. You are supposed to receive a response within 24 hours (I did get the automated reply) but all I got were chirping crickets. I waited 48 hours, checked the status online to see no activity. So I called Logitech support. Well, phone support is different than online support and the phone support couldn't look at the pictures I uploaded in the online support. So here they are. Can you see them now Logitech?

  • Volume control problems and LOUSY customer support
    By A2Y5E012DPFL45 on 2008-02-28
    The keyboard is beautiful to look at, and most things work well, *except* for the volume control, and the fact that Logitech's customer support is *pathetic*.

    The volume control is basically very flaky; it spontaneously activates without touching, sending the volume up and down randomly. It's a fairly common problem to judge from other posters in their support forums, and solvable via a replacement keyboard.

    What *really* does take the cake is that their customer support team wasn't much help. First they stonewalled, repeatedly asking me to reinstall the software and try the keyboard on other machines. After having to tell them repeatedly that that did not solve the problem, they went around in circles. Only once I posted the entire exchange in their support forum did they agree to address the problem, replace it, and issue an RMA.

    Would that have solved the problem. Logitech received the keyboard, closed my support incident as "solved", and proceeded to sit on it. Upon contacting them, they stated that it would be 14 days (!!!) before the replacement unit be sent out and I'd be notified of shipment. As of this writing, Logitech has had my diNovo Edge for over 3 weeks and they are thoroughly unresponsive.

    Google "dinovo volume problem" for their support forum thread.

    I would *never* buy another Logitech product ever again.

  • A Piece of Art and Functional too !
    By AOBI9NC1OFNSD on 2006-11-29
    Wow, If looks could move a mountain, the mountain would be movin'. Is it Art or Technology? Both. The touch on the keyboard is fantastic and all the keys feel alike (which is good). The Integral pointer pad is not for every-day use and needs to be supplemented by a real lazer mouse, but is damn convenient when you have this puppy in your lap. Installation was a little strange until you figure out that you need to press the connect button on both the usb dongle and the keyboard to get them to link up. You also need your old keyboard until you get this one linked up. Nice Product !

  • diNovo edge ultra slim... just what I've been looking for... the ultimate in feel
    By A2OWUQSJP8MB1J on 2006-12-05
    The ultra-slim Logitech diNovo Edge delivers is the ultimate in feel.
    This is "pop" with Bluetooth wireless technology. open the box, see how slick and the touch is so real, just got it today. I placed my order two moths ago, you can get a better price like i did, just Google it. -- Billy Amato (NYC)

  • Now THAT's a keyboard!
    By A1HMNO36P9H1V4 on 2007-01-09
    The ONLY reason it didn't get 5 stars has nothing to do with the purchase experience or the keyboard. It's that I'm left handed. The touch-pad on the unit is really great, but awkward for me to operate since it's on the right side of the keyboard. I run a mouse right handed but touch-pads left handed. Go figure! I solved that by adding the new MX wireless mouse that also has its own charger. Speakeing of chargers, I love the well designed holder/charger for the keyboard. I read several reviews of this keyboard before purchasing it and the one that stuck out was a person that said that he couldn't find a place in his house where the Bluetooth wouldn't work. I believe it! Not that I roam all over the place, but I have taken it more than 30' away while looking up a phone number to type into an email (so I could type it directly into the email rather than going to paper then to the email) and when I got back to where the PC was, taaadaah! Installation was a total no-brainer.

    I have this next to 'my chair' in our family/entertainment room. My 50" plasma has a PC input on it so that, along with the 24" flat screen next to the plasma for the PC, the diNovo keyboard and the MX mouse, I have all I need. My wife says she'll install a feeding tube and catheter next! Seriously, the 'zoom' feature on the keyboard is neat to be able to enlarge text on sites that allow it so I can easily read them from the 8' that I am away from the 24" flat screen. The keyboard is full of neat things.

    I WOULD like to see Logitech move the Bluetooth 'pairing' button on the next revision. It is right where you naturally grab the keyboard to put it into its holder. After 2 weeks now, I've learned how to avoid pressing it.

  • Perfect wireless keyboard/touchpad combo
    By A3OGYYZ007ABGA on 2007-01-26
    I was looking for a decent wireless keyboard/"mouse" (touchpad or trackball) combo, and found a great one in the Logitech diNovo Edge. Both the keyboard itself and the built-in TouchDisk, which is a round equivalent of the touchpad on my laptop, work flawlessly.

    The diNovo Edge was a snap to set up. It comes with a Bluetooth dongle in case you don't already have Bluetooth. I already had one, so I turned the keyboard on (it had a healthy charge when I got it, so I didn't have to charge it immediately) and made it discoverable by pressing the small button on the back of the keyboard. My PC found it and I set up a partnership and had it working in less than a minute. To digress for a minute, someone said that Bluetooth was a pain to work with, but I haven't found that to be the case. I use Bluetooth with my PCs and laptops, Pocket PCs, cell phone and my car, and personally I like it. It's an excellent answer for short-range wireless devices.

    I highly recommend this great-looking, great-functioning wireless keyboard/touchpad combo.

  • 24 hours after meeting and I'm already in love!
    By A3VDVZLMH8DO2I on 2007-06-06
    Last week I realized that there was a down side to how I'd hooked up my laptop to my HDTV. The laptop ended up connected to the TV and on top of my stereo cabinet, forcing me to stand at the computer to use it, or in my lap on my sofa, but not connected to the TV. So, I started poking around for wireless keyboards and mice. Thinking that a mouse wasn't going to work all that well, and that would just be one more "remote" in my livingroom, I shopped for a wireless keyboard with a built in trackpad. What I found was the Logitech diNovo Edge Keyboard.

    At $149 this keyboard is a smidge on the pricey side but it's worth every penny. It's light, it's thin, it doesn't need AA or AAA batteries due to the built in Li-Ion batteries and charging station, and it's on board "touch disc". The batteries are quoted as being able to last a month or more on a single charge and based on other reviews I have no reason to doubt that. The "touch disc" is a round touchpad but with two special spots on the disc that allow for both vertical and horizontal scrolling once you get the hang of it.

    Stylistically, this is a gorgeous piece of equipment. It's sleek and black, and had many backlit icons for special functions. (For example, the ring around the touch disc lights up when your using it and slowly fades out when you stop.) And, as other reviewers have said, it even looks great when sitting in the charging station.

    The wireless connection runs on Bluetooth and this is where I ran into some problems. My Vista Ultimate laptop has built in Bluetooth but I'd not used it in the past as this is my first Bluetooth device for a computer. So, I went into the Bluetooth configuration settings and instructed the computer to find the device. I'd pressed all the right buttons and read all the instructions a dozen times but computer continually failed to find the keyboard. So, as a test, I plugged in the USB dongle for computers that didn't have Bluetooth and everything connected almost instantly. Therefore, the problem was with my computer, not the keyboard.

    An hour later, having read many a support document, it seemed that Bluetooth was "running" (at least there was a Bluetooth icon in my system tray) but it was "turned off". Using the function keys to turn it on didn't work since, ultimately, the laptop was refusing to recognize the built in Bluetooth hardware. My guess is that something happened in the upgrade to Vista.

    I found updated drivers from Gateway, downloaded them, and ran the install program. The install program informed me that I had to first uninstall the old version. Off to Add/Remove Programs to uninstall Bluetooth. Upon reboot, Vista found the hardware, reinstalled the (original) drivers, and before trying to install new drivers, I tried again. This time, the keyborad connected as it should.

    (I don't blame the keyboard or Logitech for this at all. I mention it since others might have a similar problem.)

    I then installed the Logitech software which seems to give me some additional options and customizations but I'm in no hurry to investigate those since so far I've been able to do everything I've needed to do.

    The only other odd thing I've noticed is the keyboard's volume control. Using the keyboard to raise and lower the volume seems only to work within a small range, not silent-to-blearing like you'd expect. I'm sure this again has something to do with the OS' volume settings and not a problem with the keyboard itself. This is also something I'm not all that worried about as I'll probably use the TV remote's volume control more than anything else.

    For those interested, a slideshow of the unpacking, Bluetooth installation(sans screenshots of the hour of troubleshooting) and Logitech software installation, can be found in my [..]

  • The Ultimate Cool for PS3 Users!
    By A1762T0R4XW2YZ on 2007-08-04
    Since my Sony PS3 has a built in web-browser, I went looking for a sleek Bluetooth wireless keyboard that would enable me to surf the internet via my couch. And for you PS3 owners that have tried to surf the internet using the game controller and on-screen alphanumeric entry method, you can understand how cumbersome and time-consuming the process is. Furthermore, since using a wireless mouse on a couch sofa was less than ideal and probably wouldn't work well, I was also set on finding a keyboard that had a mouse built-in. The Logitech diNovo Edge is the solution to my web-browsing issues. It is very sleek, very cool, and works flawlessly with a PS3. In fact, the USB Bluetooth adapter that comes with the keyboard isn't needed. To make the keyboard compatible, just go under the "REGISTER BLUETOOTH DEVICE" menu on the PS3 and then press the "CONNECT" button on the underside of the keyboard. Instant registration. I don't mind that the numeric keypad found on the right side of standard keyboards was omitted to make room for the mouse. This omittion keeps the size of the keyboard smaller and more "lap friendly". The keyboard has orange lights that glow and fade-out when certain buttons are depressed. The charging cradle performs double-duty as a sexy display base. My only complaint is that the alphabetic keys are not backlit, as this would be wonderful when typing in a dark room or at night. Otherwise, this keyboard is the ultimate solution for wireless typing and makes a statement in a room!

  • Bad impractical keyboard
    By A2JOCWSC6L1K83 on 2007-03-02
    An overpriced keyboad. Good looking definitely but impractical. No indicator for the caps lock. What was logitech thinking. So if you sit at the keyboard after a while there is no way to tell without typing if the caps lock is (accidentally) on.

    Keystrokes do not feel all that great also.

    Besides the funky scroll bar etc might be somewhat useful with proper drivers for a Windows only PC but not for a professional keyboard which serves Linux and Windows etc.

    Trying to put in Mouse keys on the leyboard is a joke. One still needs the mouse actually as a proper touchpad is missing.

    And who wants to keep their keyboards in a stand when not in use.

    Lookswise it is very good. Functionality wise it is a dud.


  • media keyboard in style
    By A1EKSETIBS9ETQ on 2007-04-06
    Who spend 150-200 for a keyboard, I do. I came across this keyboard when I was looking for a media/couch keyboard (kb) for my PS3. I ended up getting the Logitech MX5000 and returning it for a Versapomt RF Wireless Keyboard. I then broke down and got this for my new computer. So I have tried many wireless keyboard lately.

    The goods:
    +This is the only Bluetooth that I found that is rechargeable. Most other wireless kb use battery, which is bad for the environment. The recharge indicator on your computer indicated it will last for 42 days, maybe.
    +The design is simply modern with oranges light-up and touch sensitive inputs like the PS3. Also very sturdy for sitting on your lap in front of the TV set. This is design as a media keyboard for a nice AV system.
    +The circle touch sensitive mouse is a little frustrating, but is surprisingly one of the better one out there, similar to the laptop touch pad. Versapoint touch pad is the worst and BTC 9019 wireless is the best like a console joystick. (I returned this since it often loose connection with the PS3)
    +Yes, it is compatible with PS3 Bluetooth after update 1.6. without plugging the Bluetooth 2.0 dongle. Too bad you can not use it both at the same time with your computer and PS3. You most sync it to one device at a time, but the option to switch is there.
    +Quiet

    The bad:

    -The price for design and technology is rough. 200 would be ridiculous but 150 or less is somewhat reasonable.
    -Yes as other have mentioned it use laptop's keyboard and touch pad technologies, but high quality laptop's technologies.
    -No number pad, but I don't use it that much, making it smaller.
    -If you don't mine throwing batteries away, there are cheaper RF and Bluetooth wireless options: Apple~60 (no touch pad), Versapoint~90, BTC~40 and Logitech PS3~80.
    -frustrating input at times

    Only buy this for your media system, since it is the coolest keyboard out there. If you are used to big, faster kb, look elsewhere. This really a 3.5 stars, but is definitely very cool device.


  • Do I need to re-connect again and again????
    By A3U7Q5KXGNOBMK on 2007-07-08
    DiNovo costed me a lot and works fine if it is connected. However, everytime I restart (or turn on) my PC, I have to reconnect it manually again ... and ... again. I have called their customer service and they just said that it should reconnect automatically and did not advise any resolution. I have tried to search in trouble shooting guide but it only describes how to resolve silly problems and nothing at all. It is not my PC's problem, I have tried it in several PCs with the same problem.

    Besides, it does not work well with build-in bluebooth ... as it requires connection through software setting ... how can I work with the software without a working keyboard?????

    I like a keyboard that works when I start my PC!!!!

  • Like a blade!
    By A2X61KKXXR6WNP on 2007-12-18
    This takes up very little space, is almost preternaturally thin, and runs for well over a month before it has to be dropped back into its included charger base.

    I especially like the little touch pad, which can be used to control the mouse in a pinch (a real mouse is, in my opinion, still necessary).

    The action of the keys is that of a short-throw, high-end laptop, like a Thinkpad. I love this, and I can really type quickly with it. If you like something that feels like an older electric typewriter with big keys that move a lot before registering a hit, this is not the product for you. The key action is light, but has tactile feedback. One of the best in the market right now.

    When I first got it, I connected it using my existing Bluetooth adapter, and it worked fine but wasn't recognized until Windows came up and loaded the drivers. This is a problem for making changes in the BIOS and other things that happen before Windows is running. It may not happen often, but it is necessary from time to time. The solution is to use the included dongle instead. It connects to the keyboard by itself, without drivers, and makes it look like a standard USB keyboard before Windows is up. Now that I've switched to that, it works just like it was wired.

  • The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
    By A3GSYEL2O5A65 on 2008-01-05
    I bought this keyboard for use with my laptop, which I use while sitting on the sofa. Putting the laptop on my lap was hurting my back because it make me hunch over to look down at the monitor. So I bought a laptop stand, thinking that would solve my problem. But the laptop stand was too unsteady to type on, so I raised the height of the laptop stand to eye level, bought a lap board for a keyboard and bought a different Logitech wireless keyboard. This way, I could type with the keyboard on my lap, which is great as far as ergonomics go. That worked well but the wireless mouse that came with the keyboard kept falling onto the floor when I would put the board down. So I bought the Dinovo Edge because it has a trackpad and I wouldn't have to worry about a mouse.

    THE GOOD

    1. Stylish design. The best looking keyboard I've ever seen.
    2. Great feel.
    3. Connectivity great.
    4. Using the trackpad wasn't a problem.

    THE BAD

    1. The touchpad scrolling feature doesn't work well and isn't worth using.
    2, Too expensive.

    THE UGLY

    After using this keyboad for a couple of months, I noticed that the charge was lasting for progressively shorter lengths of time. I've had this keyboard for 6 months. When I went to use it this morning, there was no charge left, even though I charged it overnight two nights ago. I called Logitech and they're going to replace it (although they're making me pay for shipping it back, which is probably going to cost me about $8 through FedEx). Oh yeah, and they say it's going to take two weeks after I send the old one back before I'll get the replacement.


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Product Features
  • PerfectStroke key system - A precision micro-scissors mechanism distributes typing force evenly across key surfaces, making every stroke natural and fluid.
  • Stylishly sleek - Laser-cut from a single piece of Plexiglass and set in a brushed aluminum frame, the diNovo Edge makes a bold statement. Only 11 mm thick!
  • Elegant charging base - Put your keyboard on display while charging via the slim base/stand. Advanced Li-ion batteries recharge faster and last longer.
  • TouchDisc scrolling - A new type of touchpad, the TouchDisc unifies scrolling, selection, and cursor control. Scroll at hyperspeed with a touch of your finger.
  • Backlit stealth controls - Hidden hot keys light up at a touch, and fade into the background when not in use. The touch-sensitive volume slider gives you precise, fingertip audio control.


 
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