PlayStation 3 Logitech Driving Force GT Racing Wheel Reviews

• A Great Addition for GT5 P

  
  By A16NNL6TW5IMEL on 2008-04-30
  I purchased GT5 Prologue and played for 2 days using the Dual Shock controller, while the game was fun, I was having trouble running well on several tracks. Over the weekend, I went to a local store which had GTP5 and the racing wheel setup as a display. After sitting down and using the wheel for about 10 minutes, I knew it was a must have. The wheel itself feels well made of durable products, the rubber on the wheel makes it very comfortable. It also has reduced my times in the races where I have used the wheel. The setup was easy and control layout is easy learn. Some reviews I have seen discount the wheel because it does not have a clutch or shifter with actual gears set out. But with the $100 I saved, I am willing to live without theses features.
  There are a few downsides, I was hoping for a wireless wheel, but it connects to the PS3 with a USB cable. However, the cable is a good length and allows you plenty of space to move across a room. Also, you have to plug the wheel into an electrical outlet. While this makes for more wires, it also allows for some great force feedback and opposed to a rumble effect.
  I am looking forward to using the wheel with upcoming racing games and some old ones. And my favorite thing about the wheel, it the GT logo that lights up in the center of the wheel.
  My advise is to get the wheel if you can. Now if they would only release the full GT5 (with damage to the cars please!)
  
  Wanted to update this review to mention the product I found to use the Racing Wheel. I tried small tables, a tv tray and an IKEA laptop table. None of them worked because of they were to tall or short and the tables that could be adjusted were to wobbly or slipped. After much searching, I found the Wheel Stand Pro which is made in Poland. Unfortunately, it was more expensive than the Racing Wheel, but it was a great buy. You can adjust the height, angle of the wheel and distance to the pedals. It is made of steel so it is solid and has sturdy clamps to fold it up and store easily. If you are looking for a great way to use your Racing Wheel, I highly recommend you check out Wheel Stand Pro site. Also, shipping was great. They emailed me on a Friday the stand was on the way and I received it on Monday.
  
  

• Must Have

  
  By A2PCQOXB9L30QF on 2008-05-05
  I have played the GT franchise games since GT2 on PS1. Needless to say, I have plenty of race time behind the "wheel of the iconic Dual Shock series of controllers. With that in mind, I can never go back to those days after experiencing the Driving Force GT.
  
  The build quality is very solid, as is expected with logitech products in general, and feels very good in your hands. It has a good amount of weight to not feel cheap, but is not heavy to the point of inconvenience. The size of the wheel is smaller than an actual steering wheel, but is of comfortable proportions for long racing sessions.
  
  The control layout is very simple, and translates well from the standard controller scheme. Navigating menus requires zero adjustment time. The real time adjustment knob is promising, and will no doubt be a great tool for the full version of GT5.
  
  The pedals are well built, and are on a solid base, which is an appropriate size and weight to be stable during gameplay. The increase in pedal pressure from the accelerator to the brake pedal is a nice touch as well. I remember feathering the gas and brake way back when, using the digital button layout of the original PS1 controller, and being amazed at the improvement by using the analog buttons on the Dual Shock 2. The ability to fine tune the amount of throttle is simply amazing, and is something truly to see seen for yourself.
  
  As another reviewer said, the wheel does come with a number of wires. The usb connector is approximately 2-3 times longer than the standard usb charger that comes with the PS3, making it adequate for most home setups - I have enough cord length to play at a comfortable distance from a 60 inch display. The external AC power adapter is not absurdly large, and has plenty of cord length as well.
  
  The existence of these wires is a necessary evil, but is well worth it. The force feedback is outstanding. The wheel fights back when attacking turns at high speed, respond with great detail when you come off the tarmac, and translates the effects of weight shift on high speed straights in a way that simply cannot be done with a conventional controller. It gives me a chill to think what this will be like on the rally courses in GT5!
  
  I cannot begin to do this product justice in words. Simply put, if you have the disposable income, and plan to put in some seat time with GT5, be it Prologue or the full game coming out next year, you must try this wheel. At least check out a demo unit - you won't be disappointed.
  
  

• Best wheel for the money!

  
  By ABFZY62SJBUX7 on 2008-05-06
  Excellent build quality, very solid with great force feedback(vibration).
  
  Auto calibration whenever plugged into PS3 or a racing game gets loaded or quit. GT5P worked flawlessly as well as the Dirt demo, GTHD, GT3/4.
  
  Full 900 degree turn radius is very nice. Wheel is 10 3/4" in diameter measured. It auto centers as you accelerate out of a turn, making it feel just like a real car. Like after you turn, then let the steering wheel slide through your hands back to center. I thought you had to manually turn it back to center it but it does this automatically. Very nice indeed.
  
  Gas pedal is ok but brake pedal is firm and responsive.
  
  Sequential shifter is great but I use the paddle shifters more and only use the shifter for quick gear changes when I can't reach the paddle buttons fast enough. Such as coming out of a turn and needing to up shift quickly.
  
  The tuning knob is great for those on the fly adjustments when in game and you WILL want to adjust certain aspects when in races. Assuming you know what your doing.
  
  Having the ability to quit to the XMB from in game is great but only works for GT5 Prologue so far. You can also move around the XMB with this as a controller.
  
  Overall, this is an excellent steering wheel for the money. Having played on a G25 as well the only real difference is the 6 speed stick shift and price. Well of course, the leather and metal accents on the G25, too. It's a bit better in feel compared to the older driving force pro in steering, feedback and pedal pressure to me. It's very much like the G25. Remember though, some cars have a 7th gear so it kinda kills the feel of the 6 speed only G25, so you have to shift with the button or use it as sequential to be able to access the 7th gear. No biggy if you like shifting with a stick, but still lame. Also, the tuning knob helps alot if you know how to use it right. So, if you gotta have a stick shift, get the G25. If you want to save some money(about $80-120) and don't care about the "stick shift" too much, then the official Driving Force GT wheel is the one to get.
  
  

• Great Product

  
  By A2KGYMKHS2GC1Y on 2008-05-06
  I bought GT5P and this wheel to treat myself after being a fan of the Gran Turismo series for a long time. I've got to say, its quite an experience. My friends and I built a mount for it and it feels fantastic.
  
  The wheel itself is comfortable and solid feeling. The pedals are heavy and don't move when you're playing, especially on wood floors.
  
  The clamping system is good and keeps the wheel in place during tight turns.
  
  

• Experience Depends on the Game... Wheel is Great Though

  
  By A3TXQIOHXRCDFC on 2008-07-11
  Summary [8.5 out of 10]
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  The Logitech Driving Force GT PS3 Wheel is an excellent driving wheel with a good build quality at a solid price point that will satisfy any casual or avid racer. Unfortunately not every game makes correct or full use of driving wheels, but the ones that do (e.g. Gran Turismo 5) create a surreal driving experience that will satisfy any driving fan.
  
  For the purist that must reproduce the true racing experience in his or her house, we would still suggest the Logitech G25; it is, however, more than twice the price of the Driving Force GT.
  
  What's in the Box?
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  It's a good sized box, about the size of a Logitech 2.1 PC speaker package. As shown on the box there was an instruction booklet, pedals and wheel (with integrated shifter).
  
  What I was really surprised to find in the box, and it might have been a toss-in for some promotion because I don't see it mentioned on Logitech's site, was a full copy of Gran Turismo 5: Prologue. If you already have it, then use this copy (if you get one) as a gift I suppose. If you didn't have a copy, you will be so freaking happy they included one, it does the wheel justice while other games don't:
  
  After spending time with this wheel and especially Gran Turismo 5, I would have to say that you cannot review a driving wheel, or al teast this driving wheel, without having a copy of Gran Turismo 5 to test with. The experience is so much better with GT than it is with other "arcade" racers that it's a night-and-day difference. More on that later though under "Driving Experience".
  
  For anyone that has used a force-feedback wheel in the past 10 years, I think the form factor of these things has always been the same. A life-sized steering wheel attached to a tapered base that is fastened to a table or desk of some kind using clamps or grips of some kind; this is very similar:
  
  As you can see the steering wheel reproduces all of the 17 or so buttons you find on a standard PS3 controller. The red wheel and "enter" button on the bottom right can be used for navigation and confirmation as well as in-game adjustments for games that support it (like Gran Turismo 5).
  
  I'm not sure what the split-circle +/- does on the bottom left, I never got it to really do anything in any games.
  
  In addition to the full-sized wheel the base unit includes an integrated shifter. The shifter doesn't have much play up or down as it behaves more like those auto-shifters (flappers) you find on some higher end cars that let you drive in automatic or shift automatically if you want. It just clicks up or down as you are driving and a spring re-centers it when you let go. It doesn't click "up" or "down" into position like a gear shifter, it's more of a toggle action.
  
  Of course you have your pedal plate. I'm a size 11.5" and the plate felt like a nice size, sturdy, good resistence on the brake and gas and my foot never fell off it or slipped off. It's a perfect size.
  
  I did find that the pedals stood upright a bit too vertical, so sitting in a chair and playing, my foot was always cocked up when I was off the gas or break. This made switching from gas to brake with 1 foot uneasy for me and I ended up driving with both feet instead; I just couldn't flip from gas and then cock my foot up enough to clear the brake as I moved it over to the left to push it back down. What ended up happening is that the side of my foot would hit the break as I moved my foot to the left and push the whole pedal pad over.
  
  I would also point out that the pedal pad would be perfect on carpet because it integrates a retractable spike-strip on the bottom of it that can click out, and dig into the carpet. On hard/wood floors like I have, it was moving around a little bit, so I secured it by pushing it up against the table you see in the picture above. I believe there are little rubber feet on it but they don't do as good a job stopping it from moving as the carpet-spike-strip would if it was on carpet.
  
  Keep that in mind if you are on a hard floor and don't have a way to secure it in place, I'm sure putting it on a mat on your hard floor would work fine (like a yoga mat) or something else that will cause it to stay put.
  
  Hooking it all Up
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  As with all racing wheels since the dawn of mankind, you fasten the wheel base that everything hooks to, to a table or desk using clamps that tighten to hold it in place:
  
  If you don't have a table or desk that this can be fastened to, you will need to get one if you plan on using this. I lucked out in that our coffee table had a lip on it that I could hook to, but I have a friend that has a low coffee table that he hooked the wheel to that provides a lack-luster driving experience as he is bent over the wheel.
  
  Someone else that came over to try the wheel out didn't have a coffee table at all in front of his TV and was wondering how he would use it; my only comment to him is that he couldn't unless he had something to hook it to.
  
  The base unit is front-heavy with the steering wheel; meaning if you didn't secure it to the table, it would happily fall steering-wheel-first off the table onto the ground. You can't just set it on something and use it; it needs to be clamped down.
  
  Also you will want it attached to something sturdy because you can get to fighting with the force-feedback and turning the wheel and moving quite a bit while racing. This could move whatever you have the wheel attached to in more vibrant racing moments; something I did with our coffee table because it has wheels on it.
  
  For example, if you tried to hook this to a bar stool or something, I don't think that would work out really well.
  
  After getting the base-unit in place, everything plugs to it into sockets in the back of the base-unit, right behind the shifter. You will plug in:
  
  * Power Adapter
  * Pedal Plate
  * PS3
  
  The wire length between all 3 of these things is pretty liberal, so unless you are trying to spread yourself across your entire living room you should be OK.
  
  The shortest connection is from the pedal plate to the wheel (understandably, since the two will always be near each other) and uses what looks like an old-school COM port connection.
  
  In what I consider the most important connection, the base-unit to the PS3, Logitech was pretty generous. You have a 10' or 11' USB cable to connect to your PS3. In the picture above I am about 10' from the PS3 and that is about as far away as I am going to get without a USB extender.
  
  The power adapter also had a generous lead on it, which I plugged into the wall behind me, about a 5' run total and there was still plenty of slack on that cable.
  
  For those curious, the power adapter is one of those "huge bricks that I have to plug in and will cover a bunch of other plugs" types. The prongs themselves are set high enough on the brick though, that if you are plugging into a wall socket, you can use the top or bottom socket without blocking the other one.
  
  If you are using it on a power strip, I'd suggest making it the last plug off the power strip so it hangs off and doesn't block other plugs cause it will. It's a bit bigger than a deck of cards or there-abouts in size.
  
  Build Quality
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  My gut reaction out of the box was "meh" honestly. I have used force-feedback wheels in the past and only once can I remember being impressed with the non-plastic build quality.
  
  However, after using the wheel for a while and playing quite a few games with it, I came to find the build quality above-average. The wheel is solid feeling, it's got a leather-wrap feel to it, the force-feedback is dynamic and consistent and the pedals were sturdy and performed well. If you want to turn the force-feedback up, the wheel can really wrestle with you, so if you like a powerful experience, you can certainly get it with this wheel.
  
  The pedals didn't feel amazing to me out of the box, but playing with them I didn't have any complaints, besides the comment above about how vertical the pedals stand.
  
  The gas is easy to depress but sping-loaded in a firm fashion to make it somewhat hard to push down with your hands. And the brake is firmly spring loaded, but in a smooth, shock-absorber way that makes it satisfying to use and feels more like a real car.
  
  The shifter does feel a little rinky-dink because it's just a plastic knob on a metal pole that is attached to a spring-loaded click-shift mechanism.If you want that tactile feedback, you'll want to get the Logitech G25 Racing Wheel.
  
  If you are a build-quality nut and don't mind paying for you, you really should be looking at the Logitech G25 Racing Wheel; that's more of a direct race-car replica, complete with metal parts, full shifter, clutch, etc. But it's more than twice the price of this wheel (just a warning).
  
  Driving Experience
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  First a list of the games we tried (in alphabetical order):
  
  * Burnout Paradise
  * Dirt
  * Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
  * Grid
  * MotorStorm
  * Nascar '09
  
  The "awesomeness" of this wheel (and I imagine all racing wheels) depends 100%, completely on how well the game you are playing implements it.
  
  Let that above statement sink in... you could spent $900 on a wheel, and if the game you are playing doesn't have a tuned wheel experience, you will likely go back to using a controller.
  
  Gran Turismo 5 is excellent, Grid and Dirt are bad; even though there are a ton of adjustments for the wheel, I wasn't able to find a combination of settings for those two games that made them playable for me with the wheel... there is a certain amount of arcadey lag that occurs between the wheel and what your car does that screws you up in tight spots, sharp turns, etc.
  
  You spend a lot of time spinning out and then spinning out more as you try and get straightened out on the track.
  
  Your mileage may vary and your tollerance may vary, but this was a comment another friend of mine with the Logitech G25 Racing Wheel echoed about those two games as well. Some of the bad controls can lead to road-rage though if you are expecting a perfect-simulation-experience from all games:
  
  I tried this wheel out, along with my wife, our friends and their children. I didn't see anyone "not get it", it's pretty straight forward and accessible to anyone that has driven before. Although the children seemed to pick it up no problem and like the idea that they were racing "for real".
  
  While the wheel does expand the experience of driving, especially if you stick yourself in "first person" perspective in the cockpit of the cars of some of these games, bad response from some games can ruin that experience just as fast.
  
  Conclusion
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  After some time with this wheel and quite a few titles, I think I've come to the conclusion that if you are a Gran Turismo fan/junkie, and plan on getting it, this wheel or one of Logitech's others is a must-get along with the game.
  
  If you just like racing games, especially more arcadey ones, you should probably skip getting a force-feedback wheel. The wheels themselves are excellent, but they are only as good as their weakest link. If the game you are playing wasn't tuned for the wheel you are just going to end up going back to the default PS3 controller after a while anyway so you can win races.
  
  It's unfortunate, but with a lot of the problem titles, I didn't find playing with the 20 settings or so for force-feedback in most of them helped at all. Some I couldn't even see a difference between a 1/10 or a 10/10 "Force Feedback" setting.
  
  Areas of Improvement
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  As with all our reviews, we don't like to criticize without providing suggestions on how to improve the product, so here are our suggestions for the Logitech Driving Force GT PS3 Wheel:
  
  * Any of the following individually (realizing that all of them together would increase the price too high):
  o A clutch on the pedal pad
  o Gear flippers on the wheel for easy shifting
  o A Shifter that included two well-defined gears and not the small-range-of-motion up/down click-shifter that is on there now so you feel cooler throwing it into gears
  * Wireless connection to the PS3 (Is that possible? I don't know how much data is being transfered from the wheel to the PS3)
  * A chart or guide that has "Best suggested settings" for the most popular driving games. You can spend a lot of time messing with the Force Feedback settings for different driving games. It would be nice to have "recommended" settings out of the box since the sampling of popular driving games on the PS3 is so small, it shouldn't be hard to do this.
  * MINOR: Easier to reach Start button (for pausing) on the wheel. The phone rang while I was playing a few times and I fumbled and crashed 3 times trying to pause the game. I can't imagine getting interrupted while driving is an uncommon thing for a video game. Would have been nice.
  * SUPER-MINOR: Working horn button, there is a horn button in the middle, and it lights up and depresses, but none of the games I tried it on did anything. This is super minor, but I like honking a lot before smashing into people.
  
  
• Bumps, shudders, pulls and corrects like a real wheel
  By ATMQ311QH86HN on 2008-06-30
  The only VG wheel I ever had was a dreamcast 3rd party nightmare that had pedals and rumble but the play from side to side made all of the DCs driving games unplayable. Force feedback always sounded like fun to me if they could get it right though, and Logitech who really seem to be churning out some quality accessories lately has stepped up again.
  The wheel unit with its plethora of buttons attaches quickly and painlessly to the proper type of table (one without a lip) attach the pedals, power supply and usb connector to console and you are ready to roll. The wheel goes through an alignment spin when hooked up and when a game starts so make sure any appendages especially small ones are out of the way when firing things up. I tried Burnout Paradise first and the driving and pedals work great, but some of the games important features can't be remapped (EBRAKE square) and this makes the wheel not ideal for this game, but it works and the rumble and force feedback are powerful with this game. GT5 is the real test and the driving force really gets to show off ripping around the six courses of Gran Turismo. When you bump another racer or hit grass or rumble strip the wheel lets you know it with an appropriate amount of varied rumble effects. When you are pulling tightly into and out of a high speed turn, it pulls like the wheels of a real vehicle would and corrects coming out like it should. The gas pedal sits high and is close enough to the brake pedal to use one foot on both, and is just far enough apart to use 2 feet if you wish. The plastic on the pedals could be a little thicker though. The wires can be a little much with this unit but the feeling of speed and realistic driving is worth the pain. The wheel is setup to work for most driving games (Sega Rally Revo, Dirt etc..) but really was made for the tracks of GT THE DRIVING SIMULATOR. A little pricey but the overall quality (light up horn button, nice wheel grip etc.) make it feel worth the price.
  
  
• Great product...one big oversight.
  By A2VJJ2POCLMED7 on 2008-06-30
  This is more than likely the best steering wheel for the PS3. The Playstation 3 Logitech Driving Force GT Racing Wheel has all the bells and whistles that you would expect from Logitech. 900 degree wheel rotation, advanced force feedback, a real-time adjustment dial for fine-tuning your driving experience and a whole lot more. The wheel basically comes with the wheel and the break/gas pedals, both of which connect to your PS3 via USB. Wireless would have been nice, but I guess that would have made it prohibitively expensive. You'll also have to connect an AC power unit to the wheel, which is kind of a hassle, but it's worth it for the driving experience, which is second to none compared to the other console wheels I've used.
  
  The one big oversight that the product has is that there's really no way to play with it on your lap. You basically have to mount it to a table or desk, and considering that this is a product for a console, to me that's kind of a major oversight on Logitech's part. Apparently there's going to be a "lapboard" attachment coming for an additional $20, but that should have been included. People don't play console games at a desk.
  
  Overall, this is a good product. If you really get into your driving/racing games, the price isn't too much to ask, and the wheel is exceptionally responsive. It's a bit bulky, and getting it at a good level is difficult since we're talking about console gaming here (how many console gaming tables do they make again?), as most coffee tables are way too low, at least for me. If they can fix that one problem, they'd do a lot in improving this wheel's functionality among it's target users.
  
  
• Believe the Hype
  By A1BXUXK2PKMFOA on 2008-06-20
  I did a lot of research before I bought this wheel. A few years back, I bought a wheel (made by MadCatz, not Logitech) for my PS2, and was less than impressed to say the least. So I wanted to make sure of my purchase for the PS3. Almost everything I read review-wise praised this wheel, and let me tell you I'm now a believer. Put simply, the thing rocks.
  
  Imagine trying to play a game like Metal Gear Solid 4, Madden 09, etc with a steering wheel... Wouldn't be fun (or make much sense), right? Well the same goes for playing a racing game with a regular Six Axis / Dual Shock 3. Since I've had this wheel, games like Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Burnout Paradise, etc have gone from good to just plain amazing. When you use this wheel, it's like, "Whoa, this is how it's supposed to be!" Speaking of games, I want to list the games that I've successfully used the wheel with as I found a list like such hard to find online. Games that I've played and work with the Logitech Driving Force GT:
  
  -Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (duh...)
  -Burnout Paradise
  -GRID
  -DiRT
  -Need for Speed Pro Street
  -Ridge Racer 7
  -NASCAR 08 / 09
  
  And I'm sure many more to come. Listen, like someone said in another review here on Amazon. I've you're thinking about it and you have the money, do it. You won't regret it.
  
  
  
• Decent Wheel
  By A1JSPVBO30TFSE on 2008-07-25
  I'll confess, I'm not really a wheel guy. More to the point, I'm not much of a racing guy any more. Those games tend to do little more than piss me off, frustrate me, and generally rub me the wrong way. As such, I was surprised to find how much I enjoyed playing the latest Gran Turismo title using this control interface.
  
  I should say right out that this was my first experience with a force feedback wheel, so I don't have much basis for cross-comparison, but with that in mind, it was certainly a better way of interacting with my game than I have previously had available to me. The wheel feels pretty tight for a two-thirds size plastic toy, and the feeling you get while driving is.....well, it's not a perfect replica, but it's still pretty authentic. All of the buttons, switches, and levers are located in easy to reach areas from your natural grip on the wheel. The only mechanical element that really bothered me was the gear shift level, which doesn't have as much wiggle and slide to it as I might have preferred, but otherwise it's pretty exceptional.
  
  That's not to say that the device doesn't have its problems. I personally had a problem with the gas pedal disconnecting from the wain wheel assembly - the pedals would walk progressively further away as I operated them. If you want to work the device from your lap you're probably up to the creek as well, as the whole controller is just a little bit way too humongous to fit comfortably in your lap and still work. I couldn't expand the clips far enough to slide the wheel onto my coffee table either, which is partly the fault of my gargantuan coffee table and partly the fault of Logitech not making the clips expand another half an inch to slip on.
  
  On the whole, I'm not sorry that I have the device, and it's made the PS3 my future platform of choice for those racing games that I do decide to get. However, it should be said that this wheel isn't going to change your life. I'm not sure I could advise anybody to spend over a hundred dollars on a device like this that isn't really interested in racing games as a genre. For the price of this device, you could get two other new release games that will probably entertain you longer than the wheel will. While it's a great piece of technology for people who know they're interested, I'd say that at its current price point, it's probably still a toy for the hardcore racer crowd, though those folks should be reasonably pleased with what they get here.
  
  
• PS2, PS3 and PC, yep!
  By A208YEITRPNBH6 on 2008-08-15
  Just got this wheel the other day from Amazon, and I can say that this is the best wheel I have used to date.
  
  I previously used a Thrustmaster Enzo, which while it had strong force feedback, had a bad dead spot, and wasn't very easy to drive. Also, the pedals needed to have a 50lbs dumbbell set behind them so they wouldn't move. Also, the feedback was rather clunky, but better than nothing.
  
  Next, I moved on to the Logitech Momo (which is essentially a Driving Force Pro for the PC; same motor, gears, and bearing system). A better wheel than the Enzo in some areas; the pedal setup was miles better, with the (probably) patented carpet tack thingy found on most Logitech Wheels, but also not as strong a feedback motor as on the the Enzo. Also, the force feedback never felt as fluid as I would have liked, and as a result I sometimes didn't have the confidence I should have when trying that overtaking maneuver at speed.
  
  Which brings me to this wheel, the Logitech Driving Force GT. I purchased it mainly because my girlfriend has a PS2, has GT4, but doesn't have a wheel, and my Logitech Momo wasn't recognized by the PS2. As I'm sure you all know, playing GT4 without a wheel just simply won't do. Also, I'm buying a PS3 as soon as GT5 comes out, so I thought I might was well kill several birds with a single stone.
  
  This thing is the bee's knees. Yes, it works on your PC, in case you were wondering. So if you've got anything other than the G25 wheel, get this one, and sell the one to cover your losses. I play racing sims a lot; GT Legends, GTR2, rFactor, LFS, and just for fun (not really a sim), Test Drive Unlimited. On the PS2, just GT4. I haven't purchased a PS3 yet mainly due to the fact that the ONLY game I care about for the PS3 is GT5.
  
  So now that you know that it works on your PC, PS2, and PS3, I'll try to let you know how well it works.
  
  I've used the fabled G25 wheel before. It's $300, and I'm not so willing to shell out that kind of money for a video game controller, but yes, it is nice, and is one of the best force feedback wheels you can purchase. Well, this one uses the same force feedback motor, gears, and sample rate, and cost less than half as much. It is miles ahead of my Logitech Momo. 900' of rotation I thought at first would be a gimmic, and something I wouldn't ever use... wrong. It makes the fine control of the car that much more realistic, and therefore makes driving quickly and precisely that much easier. It makes for a totally immersing driving experience, which is what a force feedback wheel controller should be all about.
  
  The wheel is thinner than the Momo, but a lot more comfortable in hand. It's also much larger in diameter than the Momo or Driving Force Pro, which really helps with the overall feel. I also found the build quality much higher than the Momo and Thrustmaster Enzo wheels I have used. The wheel simply doesn't budge under load, whereas the other wheels you could flex the wheel up, down, and sideways while driving. Most of the buttons on the controller can be mapped in the PC, but not all. More than enough though.
  
  The force feedback is forceful, but really, REALLY precise. There is a lovely deadzone right at the middle that just smooths in to progressive feedback, and there is no sudden feedback area, it's just so smooth. I can't say enough about the force feedback; simply awesome, very much like driving a real car at speed. The amount of data sent through the steering wheel is just awesome. You can trail brake going into corners, use the throttle to turn the car coming out, and it never feels unnatural or forced. It just feels fluid, and really gives you confidence to drive faster, find a better line, brake later, and get on the power sooner.
  
  For those reviewers who said the wheel has too much feedback? Go to the gym. If you're having problems turning in with this wheel, it's you, not the wheel. The pedals are the same as on the Momo, and while not world class, like on the G25, they do the job, and again have the retractable carpet tack system found as found on the Momo, which makes it completely immobile on carpet.
  
  So in conclusion, if you have the older Driving Force Pro, sell it. Get this one instead; it's in a different league. The fact that you can use it on three different platforms is a huge plus in my book as well. I promise you won't be sorry, and will be grinning like an idiot for weeks to come.
  
  
• Very Real
  By A1H8JNENRFFCX2 on 2008-05-20
  The first one arrived and the steering wheel did not work. All the other controls worked ok; called Logitech and they really did not have any documented solution which surprised me. The rep said that since it was new product they did not have a data base built up. Anyway, the second one arrived within 3 days and connected it and just worked great. The driving experience is so good that feels almost real. If you have the GT game you must have this. I tried playing with the game controller and it just kills the fun of the game.
  
  
• oh snap!
  By A3EN729UH0YV78 on 2008-06-06
  22 year old, college student
  I use this wheel mounted on a playseat also purchased on Amazon to play GT and F1 Championship.
  
  An excellent addition to the gaming experience. I highly recommend investing in a racing seat and wheel mount as well, using this wheel on your lap or on the coffee table just doesn't cut it.
  
  You can adjust the power of the feedback in the GT menu screen. With a bit of tweaking you seriously can feel the under/over steer of cars. It is an amazing additional level of realism to an already fantastic series of driving sims. The wheel itself feels fantastically sturdy, with a faux-leather/suede covering that I would love to have in my real car.
  
  A few complaints: With small adjustments at high speeds, you can feel the gear notches within the force-feedback mechanism, not a huge deal, but a bit annoying after a while. Also, the stick shifter is only sequential, with the shifting action feeling more like a mouse click than a shift, but I tend to use the paddle shifters anyway. The pedals are not as robust as I would like.
  
  All complaints aside, this wheel is great, a must have for any real driving sim fan.
  
  ~shakas~
  
  
• A Must Have for the Serious Race Fan
  By A2Q2A6JKY95RTP on 2008-06-13
  I bought my Logitech Driving Force GT racing wheel for use on my PS3 and specifically for Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. This is my first racing wheel and as a fan of all things Gran Turismo there is no other way to race! The level of 'feedback' that you get from the DFGT is just simply not something that can be done on a standard controller.
  
  Set-up is a breeze with a few cables to connect - USB to the PS3, power cord and the cord connecting the pedals. The wheel itself feels very high quality and not flimsy.
  
  The addition of a quick settings button is great in that you can make real-time adjustments to everything from driving aids like traction control to braking power, etc. Button layout is great and easily thumb accessible allowing you to concentrate on driving. The force feedback is fantastic as well! You'll feel actual changes in the road surface, bumps and crashes are all recreated and take your driving games to a new level.
  
  A few minor complaints:
  I wish that Bluetooth technology had been implemented. This would at least cut down on the cables. I realize that a power cable would still be necessary, but anything helps.
  
  The pedals are made well but on carpet are prone to sliding around. There is a non-slip surface on the bottom but I still notice that the pedals slide around, especially if you are rough on the accelerator/brake.
  
  Ideally you'll have something that you can clamp the wheel to. Racing with the DFGT on your lap is not easy and cumbersome. I've ordered a specialized racing wheel stand to clamp my wheel to; it also includes a place for the pedals to avoid slippage.
  
  
• Addictive
  By AQ24AUYTOL1EZ on 2008-06-30
  Let me start off by saying that like some of my fellow reviewers here I'm not much of a "race game" fan. However the Playstation 3 Logitech Driving Force GT Racing Wheel raises the bar.
  
  As soon as you plug it in the wheel begins to spin wildly. I knew from the very start this was going to be a pretty cool experience. I know there is a more expensive wheel available, but this wheel suited me just fine.
  
  To give you an idea of how the wheel reacts to the game in this case "Gran Turismo 5 Prologue". If you've ever lost control of a car before you'll know that the reaction is astonishingly similar. The only difference being that "oh boy, I've gone and killed myself" feeling.
  
  I have it mounted to a tray table. This is not the ideal choice. Everytime I lose control of my car the tray wants to slide all over the floor. Being as my living room has hard wood floors I think you can understand why. I need to either place a carpet under it or find something better to mount it on. Given this experience I'm not sure how a lap tray mount would work. I definately need to find something better and more stable to mount on.
  
  Once I started playing I couldn't stop. If I made a guess I would have to say I played roughly 3 hours upon my intitial sitting. (not including the 15 minutes of setup for Gran Turismo, NOT wheel related)
  
  I can't imagine playing another racing game without it. Race fans (and those like me who weren't before) need to experience this wheel.
  
  
• Great wheel with minor flaws, BUT: support lacks from games...
  By AIOPD46ZIV8K2 on 2008-08-18
  Having used the Microsoft Wireless Wheel on my kids' XBOX 360 I decided to get one for my PS3, thinking that it would be great to dust off the amazing-looking Motorsport. Much to my dismay I found (and I truly hope someone will call me an idiot and show me how to make this work) that Force Feedback is not supported in that game. The steering wheel is extremely awkward to use in Motorsport without the FB motors spinning as it is almost the same feel as with using the sixaxis feature.
  The wheel does work well with GT5 however I do not like that game that much. I ding the wheel therefore with one star as it lacks game support.
  
  About the wheel itself: it looks and feels nice in the hands and the 900 degree rotation is a cool feature. What I do not like is the clamp: these are screw-type clamps to connect the wheel to the table. It lacks an easy on-off mechanism like MS built into their XBOX wheel. Little disappointing as this wheel is 20 bucks more expensive than the XBOX MS wheel.
  Also, the screw-clamps lack 'room' to clamp on more modern / thicker tables (Ikea coffee tables) so if you have a table edge beyond 1.5" you will have to find something else to clamp onto. This also made me deduct a star as not eveyone will have a table that fits this mechanism and they should have created a quick connect feature / system like the MS wheel.
  
  
• Great Wheel
  By A67X7DRW5RJ51 on 2008-05-09
  This wheel is completely worth the money. It's made me a much better driver in the game. I highly recommend it to anyone who is a fan of GT or driving games.
  
  
• A great way to make your GT experience even better
  By A2HC4DTSELQHVT on 2008-06-16
  I have played Gran Turismo since the first one came out, and always ran the standard six axis controller. After buying a PS3 solely to play GT5 Prologue, I decided to take it a step further and order a gaming seat and the Driving Force GT. The experience is so much more fun, and still challenging!
  
  It works with GT4 and GT5, and I think it is money well spent if you're serious about Gran Turismo.
  
  My only complaints are that I have to look away from the screen to make quick adjustments (I'm not used to the control layout yet), and the brake pedal could use a stronger spring in my opinion.
  
  
• Fantastic Product, must have for racing games!
  By A10ZBR6O8S8OCY on 2008-06-23
  This is a well made sturdy feeling racing wheel made by Logitech. The wheel is approximately 11 inches with a rubber overmold rim and has 900 degrees of rotation. The steering wheel has excellent force feedback and really lets you feel every bump, crash, and turn you make. It has a dial (the red thing on the wheel) that allows you to adjust your brakes, traction control, and damper performance on the fly.
  
  The wheel connects to the PS3's usb port and requires you to plug it in to a wall outlet to power it. You'll be amazed the first time you power this thing up and the wheel spins by itself. Heck, there's even a horn button for you to push!
  
  I tried this steering wheel with GT5 Prologue and Formula 1, and I must say it makes the games more realistic than they already are. Having force feedback really makes a difference when playing driving games as you can feel the road and the turns. Both GT5 and F1 have force feedback enabled.
  
  The wheel itself has all the PS3 buttons so you can scroll thru menu's easily, and even includes paddle shifters so you never have to take your hand off the wheel. Although the wheel and its components are well made, the pedals feel cheap and light. The built in carpet grip system works wonderfully when used and helps prevent sliding around.
  
  One other benefit of playing racing games with a wheel is that the casual gamer friend or relative who just can't seem to use analog sticks and buttons on a regular hand controller can easily sit down and start racing.
  
  There are clamps that allow you to connect the wheel to a table so that you can drive aggressively without worrying about the wheel flying out of your hand when turning. It is highly recommended that you clamp this thing down to a table!
  
  For the price, this is an excellent choice. I highly recommend this racing wheel.
  
  
• Great wheel for PS2/PS3 - needs more PC support
  By AYZKA8JWOXRJN on 2008-06-24
  
  I got this wheel/pedal setup to use for my PS2 & PC racing games. I considered getting the G25 setup, but couldn't justify the $225 asking price for playing just driving games, besides not all games support the clutch anyway. To be honest, the button/lever (sequential) shifting suits my gaming experience just fine.
  
  For the PS2 the wheel is friggin' magical! Plug it in & boom - you're there!
  
  For the PC - well, Logitech doesn't have any new drivers to support this thing yet. I found a set of drivers (5.02) from Wingmanteam & got the wheel to work with Grid (PC version, of course). Once the drivers were installed, the GT system sprung to life! The wheel size is bigger than the previous Driving Force Pro at 11" dia. The pedals are the same plastic ones unlike the metal pedals from the G25 unit. The front buttons are pointless b/c I can't map them correctly w/o Logitech drivers. The paddle shift is really "button shift" behind the wheel, but the buttons are sized nicely and easy to operate during gameplay. The feedback is beefy and has a nice amount of torque. The clamps hold nicely on my DIY racing rig. I would highly recommend buying a racing game seat to mount this on or, if you're thrifty (READ: CHEAP) like me - make one. Great wheel for the price!
  
  
  
  
• Lots of fun!!!
  By A73C7IJSOSRVL on 2008-06-27
  Wow, I'd never really cared for racing games. I mean, how many of them really take you into the action?
  
  That has changed with the release of Logitech's various racing wheels for the PS3.
  
  I got this in the mail, and it included the GT5 Prologue racing disc.
  
  There is a bit of a loadtime before you can actually play the game. It took me about 20 minutes for it to install itself on my machine.
  
  The wheel is very comfy but can also be a bit unstable, since I have to rest it on my knees while I play.
  
  When the action hits, it's on!!! The wheel has some resistance built into the mechanisms, so don't think it's just a flimsy "just for show" wheel. This thing is as authentic as it comes--next to a real racing wheel.
  
  The foot pedals are also cool and act as confirmation buttons when you're navigating through the menus.
  
  The weekend is upon us and I'll be staying in to race!
  
  
• Steering Wheels have come a long way...
  By ADZIJQN6MNRAB on 2008-07-07
  One of the things I love in video games are neat joysticks, such as flight simulator sticks, and steering wheels. This one is really a well put together one. The steering wheel itself is covered with a rubber grip so it feels good and won't slip when your hands sweat. The pedals themselves are pretty cool and have a heavy duty touch to them. Not flimsy. I tried the wheel with two different games. Gran Turismo 5, which is WAY COOL, and Need for speed. I didn't care much for the graphics of Need for Speed, but I'm not here to review the game.
  
  The only down side to the wheel are: 1) It does this weird little spin on it's own at times. I don't like that 'cause if you are gripping the wheel, when it starts to spin, could there be the potential for it to break? 2) Then there is the cable connector from the wheel. A couple of times it came off and I didn't realize it until my car crashed. I tried to figure out why until I looked and it just came out. Now, this wheel does require that you clamp it to a table. I unfortunately, couldn't at the time, so it was hard to steer without moving the wheel a lot. That's probably when the cable came out. I remember a neat wheel I had for the PS1 that actually had a plastic base that you would actually sit on and the wheel came up between your legs. That was a great way to play and not have to worry about clamping on the table.
  
  3) The clamps themselves didn't have rubber grips, which I think it should so that it doesn't ruin nice tables. I can find those at the local hardware store, but I shouldn't have to.
  
  Overall, this wheel is incredible. I also noticed that the front of the unit looks like the front hood of a car!!! How cool is that.
  
  Aside from the minor issues, I think this steering wheel should be used when playing racing games.
  
  
• Wheel of delight
  By A14R9XMZVJ6INB on 2008-07-24
  I have to confess, I haven't played with this wheel - I got it for my husband, who had a wheel (older model) but it broke. I told him he could have it but he would have to give me a comprehensive review of it.
  
  He loves it. I said that's not enough information. Why do you love it? How and why is it better than the previous wheel. Well, this one isn't broken. I don't think he gets the whole review thing.
  
  But finally he got into it. This one is better because it feels better, turns better, the gears work better. Generally it's all better and all good.
  
  I had to accept that as enough. He's happy, and in fact happier than he was with the first wheel.
  
  
• Pretty sweet but there ares some drawbacks
  By A3BVODTYZM0T35 on 2008-10-03
  I got this about 5 weeks ago during a lightning deal for 89.99 so keep that in mind. It shipped in about 2 days and I had it in another 2 so about 4 days in all from order placement to setup. Box was in excellent condition, no dings or anything and all wires etc. were included, nothing was missing.
  
  The parts are the main wheel assembly and shifter (1 piece and cannot be separated like the G25 wheel also from Logitech), the brake and gas pedals and power block. Lots of wires, one from the main wheel assembly to the power block, 1 from power block to wall plug(obviously :P ), wire from pedals to main wheel assembly, and finally from wheel assembly to PS3.
  
  The wheel attaches to the edge of a table (end table in my case) via 2 clamps that screw down and lock the assembly in place. They look like C clamps and they hold it down fairly securely but when you go through some unruly courses with a lot of tight turns, its a good idea to check how securely the wheel is fastened after every race. :)
  
  The wheel is a joy to use with GT5 Prologue and presumably with the full version GT5 when it comes out early next year '09. The forcefeedback is very strong but can be adjusted as well as a myriad of other settings that are designed specifically for GT5 like brake balance ratio between front and back, power steering force and slew of other settings that I can't remember off hand right now (at work here). What is REALLY nice though is that you can access all these settings during the actual racing and tweak them on the fly without having to pause the race, jump through a bunch of menus, changing a setting, going back to the race, testing the setting to see if its where you want it to be etc.
  
  The force feedback motor is strong and gives great feedback. You feel the forces when for e.g. a driver slams into you from behind or from the side and tries to push you out of the way, when the tires hit the side of the road and the wheels go over the checkered, raised edge of the track(you get that thump, thump, thump, thump in the steering wheel) , when you turn at high speeds but the car wants to keep going forward so you get that tug on the wheel etc.
  
  There's also a shifter on the righthand side that is basically a toggle switch that moves up and down. You push it up and release and it goes back to the middle to shift up a gear(or shift down, you can change it in the settings) and vice versa.
  
  There are also paddle shifters on the actual steering wheel on the right and left hand side that can be used for shifting, and that's what I use mostly when racing with a manual transmission.
  The wheel really makes GT5 a joy to play.
  
  The pedal block has studded tack that flips out on the bottom to hold the pedal block in place on carpets and it works very wheel. The pedal block stays in place and is very secure even with very aggressive 'pedal to the metal' type racing approach.
  
  A quick warning though, if you've never used wheels before and just used a controller like me, the wheel might be a little frustrating in the beginning. It takes a while to unlearn the all or nothing button mashing. The gas and brake pedals behave very realistically and are linear. So coming into turns you can ease up on the gas and or feather the brakes to make controlled turns like a real driver would but in the beginning I found myself using the commando all or nothing approach and just mashing down the gas and brakes. Once you acclimate and get into the groove of things though, its just an amazing experience.
  
  I have also used the wheel with the GRiD and BurnOut Paradise demo's (GT5 Prologue is the only full featured racing game I have) and the results were ok but not as smooth as with GT5 which is expected since this wheel was made and designed specifically for the GranTourismo series.
  
  The wheel was satisfactory in BurnOut Paradise but you will need a LOT of tweaking to get it to work in GRiD (at least the demo for sure). The wheel is just waaaaaaaaay too sensitive and so the majority oif the tweaking is to get the dead zone for the wheel, brake and gas pedals right. Once you do though, it works just fine. Just make sure to turn off 900 degree wheel turns setting (or something to that effect) so you don't have to turn the wheel over one rotation to make sharp turns. Thats why it becomes too sensitive. If you leave the 900 degree setting (whatever its called) on then turning becomes ridiculously unwieldy.
  
  I know I've rambled on and on, but I hope that I have at least painted a somewhat useful picture of what to expect from this package both in actual use and game performance. If you have questions post them in the comments area and I'll try to answer to the best of my ability (assuming Amazon notifies you via email when someone leaves a comment on a review you've posted).
  
  Cheers.
  
  
• You gotta have it !!
  By A1WMHFPD9YLVFV on 2008-06-12
  I hated auto race games on the Playstation 3 until I got the Logitech Driving Force GT Racing Wheel. I believe there's a higher-end model available but this one feels pretty solid and the foot pedals are very good too.
  
  The force feedback you feel in the steering wheel gives you an idea of how you're doing through the turns and where you should be on the track for the smoothest and fastest laps.
  
  The Driving Force GT Racing Wheel makes racing Gran Turismo 5 Prologue a total blast!!
  
  
• Excellent wheel for the price.
  By A39RWUPN3EBV9F on 2008-06-20
  I was a little skeptical about buying a wheel that cost about a third of the high end wheels,but after using it for a couple hours I was happy with my purchase. I'm not a serious gamer so I don't need anything really complicated. I only gave it fours stars because being someone who has actually put a real car through it's paces I know what real crazy driving feels like and this wheel makes driving games better but it doesn't feel like the real thing.
  
  
• nice wheel
  By A1ALD09SAYLVYI on 2008-06-20
  i got this hooked up to my racing seat, and it works excallent, would of gave it 5 stars but it doesnt seam as durable as my 360 racing wheel for my 360, the plastic is kinda cheap, dont want to drop it
  
  
• how to improve the experience !
  By A2CKJQZMOALLVL on 2008-07-02
  guys .... my old house mate had a great idea .. he built a very simple table / tray that we could attach the wheels to. They worked like a dream, we could sit on the couch, pedals on the floor, steering wheel at perfect reach. Three pieces of wood and you're there ! worth the effort, way better than using the lap attachment and attaching to a desk is ridiculous !
  
  
  
  
• Now this is what I call pod racing!
  By A3OMPSEVL59ZDK on 2008-07-02
  After putting my hands on this sweet peripheral I cannot imagine ever playing another racing game with a boring old controller ever again. It looks and feels as close to the real thing as you can get. Pop in Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, set it on the in-car point of view, and you'll swear your really behind the wheel of a sweet ride racing down the Daytona speedway rushing into first place. The feedback is unbelievable. The wheel will turn if you crash and has the range of a real wheel. The vast array of button choices make playing the game your way easier than ever. Don't want to use the knob to change gears? Their are hidden buttons behind the wheel if you wish to use them. Theirs a PS3 controller built in so you won't have to fumble back and forth between a regular controller and the wheel. Its worth every penny and you'll feel the quality that only Logitech can provide. Racing doesn't get any better than this.
  
  The break and gas pedals are sturdy and well made. The grips underneath the break pad are strong so it won't be sliding out from underneath your feet at all. The response is 1 to 1 with the in-game action. Its built to play Gran Turismo perfectly but also works with other racing games as well. The wheel is sturdy and has a great rubbery grip to help keep your hands on the wheel. The built-in rumble will jitter when your on rocks or sand and give you a smooth hum when your on smooth concrete. A crash will give you a good jolt or you'll feel the slight bumb of a nearby car trying to push you out of the way.
  
  The wheel also come with a nice grip to attach it firmly to a table. Logitech has outdone themselves in creating the definitive driving wheel for all games on the Playstation 3. Your simply not playing the game right if you aren't using this wheel.
  
  
• Feel the road conditions realistically!
  By AEWYUPCNDV7HY on 2008-07-06
  I've been playing Burnout Paradise for a while now with a standard controller, and was very excited to try this wheel out. Right out of the box the wheel is very well constructed.
  
  Once I started playing Burnout Paradise with this wheel, I knew there was no going back to using a standard controller. The force feedback feature of this wheel makes crashes, turns, and road conditions feel realistic. The wheel also turns a full 900 degrees, making it feel like a real steering wheel.
  
  The brake and gas pedals are nicely weighted, giving a realistic feel as well.
  
  All things considered, this wheel is nicely contructed, priced right, and functionally very good.
  
  My only complaints are that the wheel does not come with a lap mount so you will either need to buy a lap mount, a gaming seat, or mount this to a desk/tv table/or table. Also, it's not wireless by any means. The USB wire must be connected as well as the AC power adapter. I know in time those things become available, but for now Logitech has put forth a very well made product that makes racing games extremely fun.
  
  Drawbacks:
  Power has to be plugged into an outlet
  Wheel is not wireless
  Lap mount not included*
  
  *The attached clamp makes it easy to attach to a table or desk.
  
  
• Amplifies the fun of Gran Turismo
  By A3OND36Q71G76D on 2008-07-07
  Let's get this straight from the start: I've always been a VERY casual fan of Gran Turismo. I understand that the series does an excellent job of simulating the feel of driving, but I've typically opted for more arcade-y racers. Well...until now.
  
  With this wheel, Gran Turismo Prologue is suddenly a blast to play- primarily because you'll feel like you're really driving a car. The force feedback offers a perfect tactile recreation of the sensations cause by turning, crashing, etc. It can't be left unsaid, either, that it feels very nice to use an actual gas pedal rather than just hitting "x".
  
  I can't tell you about the difference between how different cars handle or advise you on how to tweak the advice. Like the beginning wine enthusiast that can't tell the difference between a cheap merlot and an expensive one, I'm fuzzy on the details. But this is for certain: for the average racing game fan, this Logitech wheel turns Gran Turismo from a very good racing game to a great one.
  
  Recommended.
  
  

• Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
• PlayStation 3 Dualshock 3 Wireless Controller
• Sony PlayStation 3 Blu-ray Disc Remote
• Grand Theft Auto IV
• Iron Man (Single-Disc Edition)